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Sun and Moon Demo Data Mine Information MASSIVE SPOILERS!

Discussion in 'Other Pokémon Games' started by TheBlazingInfernape, Oct 18, 2016.

  1. TheBlazingInfernape

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    As the demo was released at 12:00 midnight today, Our friends at Smogon University already uncovered some really cool stuff.
    TURN AWAY NOW IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SPOILED!
    The Base Stat Total for Ash- Greninja has been revealed
    HP: 72
    Attack: 145 (HOLY SHIT)
    Defense: 67
    Special Attack: 153 (TO UBERS WITH YOU DEMON)
    Special Defense: 71
    Speed: 132 (STOP)
    Total 639
    That is higher than all megas except Gyarados, Latias, Latios, Salamence, Metagross, Tyranitar, Mewtwo X and Y, Garchomp, Diancie and Rayquaza

    There are new Alola Forms!
    Diglett, Dugtrio [​IMG]
    Geodude, Graveler, Golem [​IMG]
    Persian [​IMG]

    There are 802 Pokémon, including Alola Forms

    The leaked final evo's for the starters were true (FML Fire/Fighting again)
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    Solgaleo and Lunala are getting pre-evolutions making these two the only legendaries that can evolve.
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    Solgaleo (Bottom) Lunala (Top)

    There are 4 Island Deities total
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    There are also 8 Ultra Beasts total
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    Marshadow revealed
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    Ash-Pikachu is a thing
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    That's all!
     
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  2. Toxic

    Toxic Idk I'm bored

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    Ash's Pikachu looks so cute! Probably won't have one in my party, but it'll still be cool to have.
     
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  3. Orangesyum88

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    I just discovered the spoilers and leaks and I have to say I am surprised by this. I am loving the final evolutions of the starters, especially the owl. The internet predicted Popplios final evolution for I have seen many artwork of him. The cat though..another fighting/fire type? ugh. They could have done some thing different. Liking the Ash Pikachu, he's too cute.
     
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  4. Almandine-G

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    It's pretty interesting seeing these leaks. I'm not sure if the info is entirely accurate due to it being mined from a demo but hey, maybe it is the final thing! Either way I'm not entirely disappointed or impressed or anything, I'm just curious to see how this unfolds. One cool thing I noted was that Salandit got an evo which is pretty neat I must say! I'mm excited to see how it fares in comparison to the rest (the corrosion thing is already super cool so I have good hopes for this one)

    I'm also really loving the Ultra Beasts. They're very... Unique is the right word I think haha. Either way they're very notably standout and just personally I find myself being a big fan of the designs.

    ... Though I have some words to say to those Dugtrio about their hair. And as for Persian, you gotta ask how many Beedrills stung that poor creature ;-;

    I can totally get the rage at Litten's final evo though. Fire/Fighting has been done so much, even I'm a lil bored of it (and I'm a casual player too). I have little doubt that keeping it quadrupedal and non-fighting would've been a much more wiser choice.

    Either way I'm kinda hyped! Especially for Popplio's final evo <3
     
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  5. Pixel

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    Ice Stone ★★★★Lucarionite ★★★★Dawn Stone ★★★★Decidium Z ★★★★★Galladite ★★★★
    To be frank, I'm not disappointed in any of the Pokémon revealed, but I am disappointed by how many don't gain evolutions, and by the once again small number of Pokémon introduced (unless you count Alolan forms, which does boost the number quite a bit). I'm not surprised that the Chinese leaks were proven true, and I'm glad they were because I liked those designs. Also, for whoever's freaking out over the Fire/Fighting final starter, nothing has been shown that proves it's a Fire/Fighting type, so stop freaking out.

    After seeing everything, I still can't fill those last 2 slots in my team, but those HAT PIKAS GOODNESS ME I NEED ALL OF THEM THE ONE EAR THAT FLOPS IS ADORABLE AAAAAAAAAH
     
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  6. East

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    I completely relate here. I'm disappointed that the generation doesn't offer the numerous amount of new Pokémon I was hoping--I figured the island theme, due to a lot of biodiversity in real life, would have bode better for a generation that had a ton of new Pokémon. I'm very interested in the possibility of legendary evolution, though I'm not too sure about how it'll be executed. they're friggen adorable though



    I'm having mixed feelings about the Ultra Beasts. They don't feel/look like "Pokémon," though I do remember seeing on the Serebii forums that this generation may allow for dimensional influence--again unsure how I feel about this.

    The four island deities seem pretty interesting though--almost another take similar to the lake trio of Sinnoh we all know and love :)
     
  7. Dusty

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    Nothing in this leak displeases much. Though I'm aware that more than what was in the OP of this thread was leaked, I'm not going to go and seek that out, I still want some surprises.

    Alolan Dugtrio is hilarious with its wig things, it reminds me of that old pop group with the three blonde brothers who sang that ridiculous "Mmmbop" song. I predict a Ground/Grass typing for them, the "wigs" and little tuft on Diglett being roots. I like the designs of the Alolan Geodude line but I hope they aren't part Dark, we already have six Alolan forms being given Dark typing, three more would be overkill.

    I am torn on the Ultra Beasts. On the one hand I love the designs some of them look like mobile suits but on the other hand I am not fond of the idea of having non-Pokémon monsters to fight against in a Pokémon game. When there's a monster in a Pokémon game I want to be able to catalog it and capture and maybe use it for myself. I don't want to just destroy some mysterious monster threat from another dimension in Pokémon. But it's early days yet and these concerns might just prove to be unfounded..or through presentation they may just grow on me enough that I don't care. Who can say?
     
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  8. TheBlazingInfernape

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    EVEN MORE NEWS CAME HORY SHIEET.

    So you can catch Ultra Beasts because in the demo files, they have shiny sprites. I should probably talk about why there were the shiny sprites in the demo. GameFreak's attempt of scrubbing the demo of any unnecessary data was good... but they left all of the shiny sprites. We know every single Pokémon's shiny in Sun and Moon. The Ultra Beasts are most likely going to be shiny locked. You catch them with a ball dubbed as an Ultra Beast ball (I am not joking)
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    The Ultra Beast Ball

    HM's have been removed completely so there is no need for HM Slaves anymore (THANK CHRIST)

    Full TM list revealed HM's like Surf and Fly are TM's now. Meaning, they can be forgotten.
    TM01 Work Up (Formerly Hone Claws)
    TM02 Dragon Claw
    TM03 Psyshock
    TM04 Calm Mind
    TM05 Roar
    TM06 Toxic
    TM07 Hail
    TM08 Bulk Up
    TM09 Venoshock
    TM10 Hidden Power
    TM11 Sunny Day
    TM12 Taunt
    TM13 Ice Beam
    TM14 Blizzard
    TM15 Hyper Beam
    TM16 Light Screen
    TM17 Protect
    TM18 Rain Dance
    TM19 Roost
    TM20 Safeguard
    TM21 Frustration
    TM22 Solar Beam
    TM23 Smack Down
    TM24 Thunderbolt
    TM25 Thunder
    TM26 Earthquake
    TM27 Return
    TM28 Leech Life (Formerly Dig)
    TM29 Psychic
    TM30 Shadow Ball
    TM31 Brick Break
    TM32 Double Team
    TM33 Reflect
    TM34 Sludge Wave
    TM35 Flamethrower
    TM36 Sludge Bomb
    TM37 Sandstorm
    TM38 Fire Blast
    TM39 Rock Tomb
    TM40 Aerial Ace
    TM41 Torment
    TM42 Facade
    TM43 Flame Charge
    TM44 Rest
    TM45 Attract
    TM46 Thief
    TM47 Low Sweep
    TM48 Round
    TM49 Echoed Voice
    TM50 Overheat
    TM51 Steel Wing
    TM52 Focus Blast
    TM53 Energy Ball
    TM54 False Swipe
    TM55 Scald
    TM56 Fling
    TM57 Charge Beam
    TM58 Sky Drop
    TM59 New Move (Formerly Incinerate)
    TM60 Quash
    TM61 Will-O-Wisp
    TM62 Acrobatics
    TM63 Embargo
    TM64 Explosion
    TM65 Shadow Claw
    TM66 Payback
    TM67 New Move (Formerly Retaliate)
    TM68 Giga Impact
    TM69 Rock Polish
    TM70 New Move (Formerly Flash)
    TM71 Stone Edge
    TM72 Volt Switch
    TM73 Thunder Wave
    TM74 Gyro Ball
    TM75 Swords Dance
    TM76 Fly (Formerly Struggle Bug)
    TM77 Psych Up
    TM78 Bulldoze
    TM79 Frost Breath
    TM80 Rock Slide
    TM81 X-Scissor
    TM82 Dragon Tail
    TM83 Infestation
    TM84 Poison Jab
    TM85 Dream Eater
    TM86 Grass Knot
    TM87 Swagger
    TM88 Sleep Talk
    TM89 U-turn
    TM90 Substitute
    TM91 Flash Cannon
    TM92 Trick Room
    TM93 Wild Charge
    TM94 Surf (Formerly Rock Smash)
    TM95 Snarl
    TM96 Nature Power
    TM97 Dark Pulse
    TM98 Waterfall (Formerly Power-Up Punch)
    TM99 Dazzling Gleam
    TM100 Confide

    29 Z-Moves Total including 11 special Z-Moves like Catastropika and Pulverizing Pancake. This means there is 1 Z-Move for each of the 18 types.

    Gigavolt Havoc goes over Thunderbolt and has a base power of 175

    There is no bicycle in Alola

    Thunder Wave accuracy dropped from 100% to 90% and Paralysis halves speed as opposed to dropping it to a third

    If you wish to view the leaked Pokémon and their shiny forms click here

    I'll keep this updated with as much info as possible!
     
  9. Headsprouter

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    I'm just gonna talk about what I found most remarkable in the leaks in a spoiler.

    Generally speaking, I hope everything that was in the demo is revealed by the time the games are released, otherwise I'll feel a little bad for looking. Anyway:

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    I was really disappointed with Alolan Persian to start with, but I've warmed up with it as it looks quite cute in its art. It reminds me of a fat-faced Russian Blue or British Shorthair.

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    I didn't expect Crabrawler to evolve. I preferred the original, but Pokémon with funny expressions like this one tend to be the ones I get most attached to.

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    I know of arthropods that use air bubbles to breathe underwater. I hope these are bugs. They remind me of divers as well as exploration robots.

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    This is cool.
     

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