Last night SOME HOW. People got their hands on Pokémon Moon. Sun is yet to be leaked. However there is a lot of information regarding the leaks. Sources: PokecommunityDaily, SciresM's Twitter, Pokémon PhD's Twitter, and Kaphoctis' YouTube channel. THERE ARE SPOILERS (Duh) TURN AWAY NOW IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED. Spoiler: YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED We have the Starter's Hidden Abilities and some moves they learn that look great! Each Starter also get's their own Z-Move however we only know Decidueyes at the moment. Decidueye HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe 78/107/75/100/100/70 Hidden Ability — Long Reach (Uses moves without making contact with the target) Notable moves — Curse, Haze, Baton Pass, Spirit Shackle [80 BP; prevents target from escaping), U-turn, Sucker Punch, Nasty Plot, Brave Bird, Shadow Ball, Energy Ball, Acrobatics, Shadow Claw, Grass Know, Swords Dance, Synthesis, Leaf Blade Decidueye is the fastest of the three starters and has the seventh best attack out of all of them. Also, it doesn't learn Fly. Incineroar HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe 95/115/90/80/90/60 Hidden Ability — Intimidate Notable moves — Flare Blitz, Outrage, Cross Chop, Taunt, Earthquake, Leech Life (wat), Low Sweep, Brutal Swing (60 BP, hits all targets), Will-O-Wisp, Snarl, Crunch, Fake Out, Nasty Plot, Darkest Lariat (85 BP, ignores target's stat changes) Incineroar is tied for the second slowest starter next to Primarina, even Torracat is faster. Only Torterra is slower. However Incineroar has the fourth best attack Primarina HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe 80/74/74/126/116/60 Hidden Ability — Liquid Voice (All sound-based moves become Water-type moves) Notable moves — Charm, Amnesia, Perish Song, Wonder Room, Sparkling Arta (heals opponent's burns while damaging; 90 BP), Disarming Voice, Energy Ball, Hyper Voice, Moonblast, Hydro Pump, Encore, Ice Beam, Blizzard, Psychic, Scald, Surf, Aqua Jet Primarina has the best Special Attack and Special Defense out of all the starters. Info About New Pokémon: Gumshoos is similar to Watchog due to the fact that it doesn't have the best stats. Bulky in HP and a good physical attacker. It gets Super Fang, Pursuit and Bite Salandit's evolution is called Salazzle which Salandit evolves into at level 33. It is possible that this is a female only evolution. It keeps the Poison/Fire typing and is a fast Special sweeper. It gets Nasty Plot as well. Pikipek evolves into Trumbeak at level 14 and further into Toucannon at level 33. Toucannon is an HP bulky Physical attacker. Frail on the special side and isn't very fast either. WImpod's evolution is called Golisopod (Goliath+ Isopod if you didn't get it.) Unknown typing (presumably Bug/Water) but it can be seen in the overworld. The bubble bug Pokémon in the datamine is known as Dewpider and it is a Bug/Water type. It evolves into Araquanid. Morellul evolves into Shiinotic and is still Grass/Fairy. The anchor Pokémon in the datamine is known as Dhelmise and is a Ghost/Grass type. The TCG Booster Pokémon is called Mareanie and is a Poison/Water type. It evolves into Toxapex keeping it's previous typing. Crabrawler's evolution is Crabominable and is a Fighting/Ice type Alolan Diglett and Dugtrio are Ground/Steel type. Wishiwashi has very low stats but its School Form boosts everything at the cost of Speed. It reverts back to solo form at 25% HP or less. Old Pokémon Changes: Gengar now has Cursed Body instead of Levitate. Old Move Changes: Dark Void now has 50 accuracy and can only be used by Darkrai (THANK FUCKING GOD) Leech Life has 80 Base Power instead of 20. Other: There is an area in the game to transform Zygarde Cells into 10% Zygarde and 50% Zygarde. Colress is part of the Aether Foundation (HOLY GOD YES) Kahunas are Elite 4 replacements and Kuiki is the Champion. That is all for now. NO STORY OR PLOT WILL BE POSTED.
Some cool stuff that I've seen that wasn't mentioned here. The legendary dogs (suicune, entei and raikou) now have inner focus as their hidden ability. More relevant for doubles, but being fake out immune/guaranteed not to be flinched from rock slide is really nice. Slush Rush is now a thing,being Chlorophyll/Swift Swim for hail. Pretty dope, hail might actually be viable now. Pelipper and Torkoal now have Drizzle and Drought respectively. Don't have to rely on Poliotoed and Ninetails any more Golisopod is indeed Bug/Water, and interestingly capitalises on Leech Life massively since it seems to be its highest base power Bug STAB, bar 'First Impression' which looks trash. It has been rumoured that eviolite received a nerf. There is also some speculation around unaware not working defensively and only ignoring your opponents defensive stat changes. If either of these are true stall is going to be severely worse off, if not down right unplayable without Unaware. And just a general observation, every is so god damn slow. Like seriously, there are some exceptions but for the most part everything is slow and bulky. Someone please tell me why Vikavolt is base 43 speed. We have Pyukumuku which is tied for the slowest Pokémon with Munchlax and there seem to be very few Pokémon contesting with base 100s. Everything either seems to be 90 and below or 115+.
@[member="Reborn"] Yeah, most of the Pokémon in the first video for normal Pokémon seem to only have one or two good stats, with the other stats being terrible. Maybe it's just not finalized yet? I have a hard time believing Game Freak would do something like that. You know what? I honestly don't buy it. I don't think these are the final stats these Pokémon will have. Well I just noticed a small mistake you made. It says on Pokecommunity that Mareanie is the Booster Box Pokémon and that Nihilego is a Rock/Poison-type. Nihilego was also not shown in the videos you linked. EDIT: It says later that Nihilego is what UB-01 is called when you catch it.
No more Levitate Gengar?! Whaaaaat??? Also with the leak of the starter stats and movesets it's going to make it a lot easier for me to decide which starter I want.
Cursed Body Gengar? Pretty sure that's a nerf. Levitate too strong. Wonder if this will knock Gengar out of OU. Dat Leech Life tho. Wowsers. Crabominable? Wishiwashi? Names are great.
Hold your horses folks we still got more stuff. Of course, the spoiler tag will be used just in case. Spoiler: More Stuff Move Set Changes: Butterfree can learn Air Slash. Dodrio can learn Jump Kick. Gyarados can learn Hurricane Furret can learn Coil. Noctowl can learn Moonblast. Pichu, Pikachu, and Raichu can learn Electric Terrain. Bellossom and Wormadam can learn Quiver Dance. Sudowoodo can learn Head Smash. Dunsparce can learn Air Slash and Dragon Rush. Delibird can learn Drill Peck. Mantine can learn Roost. Suicune can learn Sheer Cold. Swellow can learn Hurricane. Wailord can learn Noble Roar. Grumpig and Whiscash can learn Belch. Flygon finally gets Dragon Dance. Dodrio, Bibarel, and Seviper can learn Swords Dance. Lunatone and Diancie can learn Power Gem. Solrock, Litleo, and Pyroar can learn Flare Blitz. Bibarel can learn Aqua Jet. Wormadam can learn Bug Buzz. Ambipom can learn Dual Chop. Skuntank can lean Sucker Punch. Froslass can learn Will-O-Wisp. Watchog can learn Nasty Plot. Simisage, Simisear, and Simipour learn the three powerful moves usually unique to starters: Frenzy Plant, Blast Burn, and Hydro Cannon respectively. Throh can learn Mat Block. Basculin can learn Head Smash. Pangoro can learn Bullet Punch. More Ability Changes: Raikou's, Suicune's, and Entei's Hidden Abilities were all replaced with Inner Focus. Wingull's Hidden Ability, Keen Eye, was replaced with Hydration. It turns into Drizzle when it evolves into Pelipper. Torkoal's Hidden Ability, White Smoke, was changed to Drought. Roggenrola and Boldore get the Hidden Ability Weak Armor instead of Sturdy. This turns into Sand Stream when evolved into Gigalith. Vanililite and Vanillish now have Snow Cloak instead of Ice Body as their Hidden Ability. Vanilluxe has Snow Warning instead of Ice Body. Cubchoo and Beartic had their Hidden Ability (Snow Cloak) replaced with a new ability, Slush Rush. Stat Changes: A few Pokémon have an increase in Attack. Arbok's Attack has increased from 85 to 95, while Dugtrio's increased from 80 to 100. Farfetch'd now has 90 Attack instead of 65. Beartic's and Crustle's both increased, from 95 to 105 and 110 to 130 respectively. Dodrio, Electrode, and Delcatty have increased Speed stats. Dodrio's is now 110 instead of 100 and Electrode's increased from 140 to 150. Delcatty's Speed was raised from 70 to 90. Exeggutor, Ariados, and Corsola have increased Special Defense. Exeggutor's went from 65 to 75, Ariados's from 60 to 70, and Corsola's from 85 to 95. Corsola also has an increase of Defense (from 85 to 95) and HP (from 55 to 65). Noctowl's Special Attack is now 86 instead of 76. Swellow's Special Attack also increased from 50 to 75, and Pelipper's from 85 to 95. Masquerain has an increased Special Attack (from 80 to 100) as well as an increase in Speed (from 60 to 80). Qwilfish's Defense was raised from 75 to 85. Mantine now has 85 base HP instead of 65. Lunatone and Solrock both now have 90 HP instead of 70, and Woobat has 65 instead of 55. Volbeat and Illumise now have 75 Defense and 85 Special Defense, raised from 55 and 75 respectively. Cryogonal now has 80 HP instead of 70. Alolan Golem is Rock/Electric. New Moves: Spotlight causes attacks to focus on the target. Brutal Swing is a new TM with 60 Base Power that hits all targets. Incineroar learns this move. It is TM59 this generation. Beak Blast is a -3 Priority move with 100 Base Power. It inflicts Burns making physical contact with it while the move charges during the turn (ala Focus Punch). This is Pikipek's evolution's signature move. Accelerock has 40 Base Power and 100% accuracy. It always goes first. This was previously revealed to be Midday Lycanroc's signature move. Tearful Look is a non-damaging Normal-type move that lowers the target's Special Attack and Attack. Baneful Bunker is a move only learned by Tonapex. It is a non-damaging Poison-type move that protects the user from an attack but poisons any attacker Pokémon that makes physical contact. Liquidation is a physical Water-type move that has 85 Base Power. It may lower the target's Defense stat and has 100% accuracy. High Horsepower has 95 Base Power and is a physical Ground-type move learned by Mudbray and Mudsdale, and for some reason also Golurk and Snorlax. It has 95% accuracy. Lunge is a new physical Bug-type move with 80 Base Power and 100% accuracy. This move lowers the target's Attack stat. Strength Sap is a non-damaging Grass-type move. It restores the same amount of HP to the user as the target's Attack stat, and lowers the target's Attack stat after use. This move is exclusive to Morelull and its evolution. Stomping Tantrum is a physical Ground-type move with 75 Base Power and 100% accuracy. Its power doubles if the user's previous move missed. Trop Kick was revealed in one of the previous trailers. It is a physical Grass-type move learned by Tsareena and lowers the opponent's Attack stat after use. It has 70 Base Power and 100% accuracy. Floral Healing is a non-damaging Fairy-type move exclusive to Comfey. It restores the target's HP by up to half of the target's maximum HP. It restores more HP when the battle is fought on a grass terrain. Purify is a non-damaging Poison-type move. It removes the target's status condition, and if it does not miss, it also heals the user's HP. It is only learned by Pyukumuku. Zing Zap is a physical Electric-type move learned by Togedemaru. It has 80 Base Power and 100% accuracy. Psychic Fangs is a physical move that has 85 Base Power and 100% accuracy. If it hits, it destroys any Light Screen or Reflect set up on the opponent's side of the field. Anchor Shot is a Grass-type move that prevents the target from fleeing after its use. It is a Special move that has 80 Base Power and 100% accuracy. It is only learned by Dhelmise. Smart Strike is a Steel-type move that never misses. It has 70 Base Power. It is TM67. Laser Focus allows the user's next move to alows be a critical hit. Prismatic Laser is a special Psychic-type move. It has 160 Base Power and 100% accuracy. However, after using it, the user can't move the next turn. It is exclusive to one of the Ultra Beasts. Spectral Thief is Marshadow's signature move. It is a Ghost-type move with 100% accuracy and 90 Base Power. First, Marshadow steals the opponent's stat boosts, then attacks. Throat Chop is a physical Dark-type move that has 80 Base Power and 100% accuracy. It prevents the target from using sound-base moves for two turns. Pollen Puff is a Bug-type move with 90 Base Power and 100% accuracy. It can be used to either attack the opponent or, if used on an ally, heal the target's HP. It is a special move and only learned by Ribombee. Ice Hammer can only be learned by Crabrawler's evolution. It has 100 Base Power and only 90% accuracy, and it lowers the user's Speed. It is a physical Ice-type move. Psychic Terrain is a move that protects Pokémon on the ground from priority moves and powers-up Psychic-type moves for five turns. Shore Up is a healing move only learned by Sandygast and Palossand. It restores half of its maximum HP and restores more HP in a sandstorm. First Impression is only learned by Wimpod's evolution and is a physical Bug-type move with 90 Base Power and 100% accuracy. It only works on the first turn of the battle, similar to Fake Out. Gear Up is a Steel-type move that raises the Special Attack and Attack of an ally Pokémon that has the Plus or Minus ability. Speed Swap is a Psychic-type move that switches the user's Speed stat with the target's. Aurora Veil reduces damage taken from damaging moves for five turns and can only be used in a hailstorm. Shadow Bone is a physical Ghost-type move learned by Alola Marowak. It has 85 Base Power and 100% accuracy. It may lower the target's Defense by one stage. Toxic Thread is a move exclusive to Spinarak and Ariados. It causes poison and lowers the target's Speed by one stage. It has 100% accuracy. Fire Lash is a physical Fire-type move learned by Heatmor that has 80 Base Power and 100% accuracy. It lowers the target's Defense by one stage. Power Trip is a 20 Base Power physical Dark-type move that also has 100% accuracy. The more the user's stats are raised, the more damage it will cause, similar to Stored Power. Burn Up is a special Fire-type move with 130 Base Power and 100% accuracy. After using this move, the user will lose its Fire typing. Unknown what replaces the Fire typing if the user is only a Fire-type. Multi-Attack is exclusive to Silvally and its type is dependent on the item Silvally is holding. It has 90 Base Power and 100% accuracy, and it is a physical move. All Z Moves: Breakneck Blitz: The Normal-type Z-move. All-Out Pummeling: This is the Fighting-type Z-move seen in a few trailers. Supersonic Skystrike: The Flying-type Z-move, but this is unconfirmed. Acid Downpour: The Poison-type Z-move. Tectonic Rage: The Ground-type Z-move. Continental Crush: The Rock-type Z-move. Savage Spin-Out: The Bug-type Z-move. Never-Ending Nightmare: This is the Ghost-type Z-move shown in a few trailers. Corkscrew Crash: The Steel-type Z-move. Inferno Overdrive: The Fire-type Z-move. Hydro Vortex: The Water-type Z-move. Bloom Doom: The Grass-type Z-move. Gigavolt Havoc: The Electric-type Z-move. Shattered Psyche: The Psychic-type Z-move. Subzero Slammer: The Ice-type Z-move. Devastating Drake: The Dragon-type Z-move. Black Hole Eclipse: The Dark-type Z-move. Twinkle Tackle: The Fairy-type Z-move. Catastropika: Pikachu's exclusive Z-move. It is a physical Electric-type move with 210 Base Power. Sinister Arrow Raid: This is Deucideye's Z-move. It is a physical Ghost-type Z-move with 180 Base Power. This only works with Spirit Shackle. Malicious Moonsault: This is Incineroar's Z-move. It is a physical Dark-type Z-move with 180 Base Power. This only works with Darkest Lariat. Oceanic Operetta: This is Primarina's Z-move. It is a physical Water-type Z-move with 195 Base Power. This only works with Sparkling Aria. Guardian of Alola: The exclusive Z-move for the Tapu Island Guardians. It only upgrades the Tapu's Nature's Madness attack. Pulverizing Pancake: Snorlax's exclusive Z-move. It is a physical Normal-type Z-move with 210 Base Power. It only works with Snorlax's Giga Impact attack. Extreme Evoboost: Eevee's exclusive Z-move. It only upgrades Eevee's Last Resort attack. Stoked Sparksurfer: Alola Raichu's exclusive Z-move. It is a special Electric-type move with 175 Base Power and leaves the target paralyzed after hitting. It only upgrades Alola Raichu's Thunderbolt. Genesis Supernova: Mew's exclusive Z-move. After attacking, it changes the terrain to Psychic Terrain. It is a special Psychic-type move with 185 Base Power. It updates Mew's Psychic. Soul-Stealing 7-Star Strike: Marshadow's Z-move that upgrades its exclusive move, Spectral Thief. It is a physical Ghost-type move that punches and kicks the target consecutively. This possibly indicates a multi-hit move, but it is not confirmed. 10,000,000 Volt Thunderbolt: This Z-move is exclusive to the Pikachu wearing a cap. It is a special Electric-type Z-move with 195 Base Power. This Z-move only upgrades the special Pikachu's Thunderbolt. It increases the user's change of landing a critical hit in a future attack. New Abilities: Emergency Exit: The Pokémon switches out when its HP becomes half or less. Merciless: The user's attacks become critical hits if they are poisoned. Water Bubble: Lowers the power of Fire-type moves and prevents the Pokémon with this ability from getting burned. Steelworker: The power of Steel-type moves are increased. Slush Rush: The Pokémon's Speed is increased in a hailstorm. Galvanize: Normal-type moves become Electric-type and are slightly boosted. Battery: Powers up ally Pokémon's special moves. Tangling Hair: When opponents make contact with this Pokémon, the attacker's Speed is lowered. Power of Alchemy: When an ally is defeated, this Pokémon copies the fainted ally's ability. Beast Boost: This is only available to Ultra Beasts. It raises the UB's highest stat when it KOes an opponent. Prism Armor: Reduces the power of attacks that would be super effective. Changes to Old Abilities: Gale Wings only works when the user has 100% of its HP. Unaware only ignores the opponent's stats when the user is attacking. New Items: Ice Stone is used to evolve certain Pokémon, most likely Alola Vulpix into Alola Ninetales. Poké Ride Pokémon are summoned via an item called the Ride Pager. Different Pokémon are registered throughout your journey. The Beast Ball's item description is "A special Poké Ball designed to catch Ultra Beasts. It has a low success rate for catching others," meaning that it might be possible to use it to catch non-Ultra Beasts. Red, Yellow, Pink, and Purple nectar are flower nectar obtained from areas on different islands. They are used to change the form of a certain Pokémon, which is most likely Oricorio. Terrain Extender is an item that increases the duration of the changed terrain caused by the use of a specific move or by the holder's ability. Other: Colress will be available to battle in the Battle Tree, along with Grimsley from Unova and Anabel from the Hoenn Battle Frontier. Mega Evolutions will have their own Pokédex entry Cosmog evolves into Cosmoem at Level 36 then into Solgaleo or Lunala depending on the version of the game. They are presumed to be Ultra Beasts. If you want to here is a Pastebin of all the moves that can be learned by Level Up, TM or Tutor. NOTE: This still has some of the ORAS demo stuff in it. Moveset Pastebin
Just picking out some of the more notable moves that can Pokémon now learn. Rock Head Head Smash Sudowoodo could be interesting, but with its low speed and mediocre defences and defensive typing it appreciates sturdy and I doubt this making a huge difference to its tiering. Mantine learns roost. This can be pretty huge. As a defensive defogger its lack of reliable recovery really set it back. I wouldn't be surprised to see this make it at least RU, especially with the higher base HP. DD Flygon. Hell yeah. Having a faster DD user can be huge for outspeeding key mons that slower mons like Dragonite can't at +1. It's less bulky and strong, but having a stab EQ is great and overall I can see this really helping it. SD Aqua Jet Bibarel. Jesus that sounds disgusting. With Simple it gets to +4 in one turn. This seems like a watered down version of BD Azu with more speed, but with worse typing and no fairy coverage, but also being less restricted on the use of item and not having to lose 50% of its health (though also being more susceptible to Intimidate). Overall this thing should be a big threat in lower tiers for sure. I like that Pyroar gets Flare Blitz. It's just a shame about its stats really. Skuntank already learned Sucker Punch by move tutor, but this is nice. Pelipper getting drizzle is pretty big for use as a utility on rain teams. It has access to defog and u-turn to bring in the rain sweepers safely and has pretty much the same offensive presence as Politoed with the base sat changes to special attack for Pelipper. I've heard that Talonflame is awful now. Gale wings only works if you're at full health, meaning you must have rocks removed and you can't use recoil moves. I guess acrobatics sets could still be a thing but you still need to avoid taking a hit.
Yeah that is pretty big. But according to a Smogon datamine it is said to also get Spikes. Smogon is where the Movepool stuff came from so this is most likely to be true. Thoughts? I'm thinking a set like this? Mantine Ability: Water Absorb Item: Leftovers EV's: 252 HP 252 Sp Def 4 Def Nature: Calm Moves: -Spikes -Roost -Scald -Defog
Spikes stack + Defog really doesn't make that much sense. I would say you really want one or the other depending on what the team needs, and have a spinner if running spikes. But just having the potential to run either set makes this thing threatening. I can't imagine this being a suicide lead at all considering it doesn't have a reliable way of killing itself like something like Skarmory would have (while also having access to Rocks) and not being able to run a custap berry since it doesn't have sturdy. To be honest, it feels like there are better spikes setters in lower tiers already and the fact that it is a defogger with reliable recovery is the main drawing point for me. Who knows though.
Yeah now that you say that, you are right. Defog makes no sense on Mantine if it has Spikes. Maybe Toxic, Air Slash or Ice Beam would be the better move. Air Slash for STAB, Ice Beam for coverage, and Toxic to whittle walls down. Also, I found something interesting about Bibarel. I was messing around with damage calculations and found this. +4 252+ Atk Life Orb Bibarel (Last Resort) vs. 248 HP / 236+ Def Skarmory: 109-130 (63.7 - 76%) -- guaranteed 2HKO Don't mind me, using my Swords Dance Last Resort Bibarel.
Probably Toxic would be the best call. If you aren't stacking up spikes you really aren't posing much threat to set up mons that don't care about burns, meaning you just get set up on. Toxic at least puts them on a timer, limiting their sweeping potential. Air slash kind of does pitiful neutral damage and I'm not sure how useful Ice beam coverage would be in the lower tiers that it will probably be in (again, just have to wait and see lol). And any last resort gimmick will be just that, a gimmick. Very matchup dependent and one dimensional. Not having coverage or priority really sucks and forcing yourself to SD isn't great since your opponent can abuse that (though in reality it's probably what you'll be clicking anyway).
One more thing I forgot to put in the last one. It's about Z-Moves Spoiler: Z-Move stuff Z-Moves benefit non-attacking moves too! Every status move not called Nature Power, Metronome or Assist gain a side-effect when used as a Z-Move. Z-Splash grants +3 Attack Z-Destiny Bond redirects all attacks to the user. Z-Celebrate/Happy Hour/Hold Hands/Conversion/Geomancy raise all stats +1 stage, Z-Nature Power transforms into the respective Z-Move based on terrain (e.g. Energy Ball —> Bloom Doom). Z-Hidden Power always turns into Breakneck Blitz regardless of what type the Hidden power is. Z-Belly Drum restores HP before deducting 50%, allowing it to be used when the user has less than 50% HP.
@[member="TheBlazingInfernape"] Hmm... All the videos you gave the links to for the base stats can't be watched anymore. Staters and Normal Pokémon 1 aren't loading period, and the others are private now.
I think the reason people ot ahold of moon is because someone released the ROM of it from what I hear
@[member="TheBlazingInfernape"] This is a huge buff. The turn order is now determined after Mega Evolution. This is massive. Pokémon like Mega Diancie and Mega beedrill no longer need to run protect. They will have the speed increase on the same turn as they mega evolve, freeing up space for moves like HP Fire, Calm Mind or Rock Polish on Diancie, and allowing Beedrill to run both Knock Off and Drill Run. Swampert doesn't need to wait a turn to be able to abuse the rain and Mega Lopunny doesn't need to use Fake Out to outspeed things (though it is still a good option since it gives nice chip damage). Manectric doesn't need to worry about being outsped on the turn that it megas. This slightly nerfs things like Sableye, which can no longer go for Prankster will-o-wisp on the turn that it Megas and Mega Abomasnow as it sometimes relies on it being faster than the opposing Pokémon with its base 60 speed pre-Mega and its base 132 attack/sp.atk after Mega to pick up the KO. Pretty situational on the latter but its something to consider I guess.
