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How To Fix Sonic? (...is it even broken?)

Discussion in 'Video Games' started by Seprix, Mar 20, 2017.

  1. Seprix

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    You know, I'm just going to make this topic now. I have put a lot of thought into Sonic games, and I want to know people's opinions on this before I start delivering my own thoughts on the matter.

    Is Sonic fundamentally broken as a game? What can be done to fix it, if it is?
     
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    How to fix Sonic games? It's simple. Stick to a concept that is known by everyone.

    Why did Colors do well but not Unleashed? Why did Generations exceed while Boom fell flat? It's because the good games are just simple. Running. Going fast. No sidequest BS or some new game mechanic that's overly complex.

    Just sticking to what the games were built on makes a game good. We just want to go fast.
     
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    They need to keep the speed and keep you on course. I like open world a lot but in Boom it fails since there is NOTHING there, there are so few NPCs that you can't even build a world off of that.
     
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    They need to listen to fans and make a Sonic Adventure 3 that has good multiplayer, nostalgia from the previous SAs, and no glitches/bad voice acting/boring story etc. BRING BACK THE CHAO GARDEN!
     
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    I can definitely agree on another Sonic Adventure game along with mostly bringing back the Chao Garden. It gives the players so much more to do on the games when the chao garden was out. Second, the idea of more multi players also sounds cool and with more things to do other than racing (ex: master emerald/jewel hunting, robot battles, little mini game events, and etc.). I understand that is the whole concept of the game a bit, but is also best to let go of it sometimes. Third, they also need to give other characters a chance to shine a bit. Yes, there was Sonic Boom and the Olympic Games with Mario and his crew, but geez... I think they give Sonic too much spotlight (in the few recent games) at times when it comes to playable characters. Not only that, they also have over 16 (not sure if that's the right number) characters in the games. And finally, keep the master and chaos emeralds! I think those along with sonic and his crew with them make a huge impact on their story. Yeah, there was the crystal fragments in Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric, but they aren't the same in my opinion.

    I can just go on and on about this so, I'll just stop. :sweat:
     
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    It's gotten to the point that I'm not entirely sure the brand can be saved. There's just so many failures now. That said, I'd love to be proven wrong.


    Though watching game grumps play the failures is my favourite past time.
     
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    Interesting theory.

    Boom is kind of a bad game in general.

    I'd rather they didn't do any of that except for the Chao Garden. Sonic Adventure was terrible. I admit, I really enjoyed them, but let's be rational here, it wasn't really any good.

    So you want more playable characters. But are the games themselves any good?

    That's a harsh and pessimistic view. Any brand can be saved. Time heals all wounds.
     
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    I kinda have to agree, it seems almost to far gone, people like to play it now because it is so broken it seems. I mean it could rebound but I can never see it getting back to where it was before
     
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    Most of the newer sonic games look rushed in my opinion. Maybe if they took their time to make the game look pretty and well made that could fix it. Also adding things people really love from the older games *COUGH* Chao Garden *COUGH* maybe that could just be enough to fix it.



    I'm still trying to forget that one game where sonic pretty much had a relationship with this one human girl in a very glitchy world.
     
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    That was in 2006.
     
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    True, but I'm still having a hard time forgetting about Sonic 06.
     
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    you wanna talk broken? talk about Sonic 06'

    also, i want Hyper Sonic from S3AK to come back
     
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    They're purposely rushing Sonic games because Sonic's secretly the video game writer. It's a self destruction!

    In all serious, Sonic games just need the feel of how good games proceed. It's a plot that requires you to run and kill robots and strange creatures in manners to hurry into a destination.
     
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    How to fix the Sonic Series: Maybe take the effort to make a good Sonic game?

    The other thing is (might be going off-topic) when people talk Sh*t about Nintendo and about how they are not "mainstream" anymore, yet when a new (actually good for once) Sonic game comes out, people fall back on the "Sega does what Nintendon't" bullsh*t when actually Nintendo has been "Nintendoing" good games for the Gamecube, Wii, Wii U & Switch.

    Meanwhile, Sega has been pumping out Sonic turd after turd, kinda like in this video:

    https://youtu.be/TvNEZ4WWQIk
     
  15. Seprix

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    I'm going to give my thoughts soon. I like all of the discussion this has been generating.

    I'd rather not. :( Also, Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Never played to the point of Hyper Sonic being a thing.

    I think it's more complex than that. I think the entire mechanic of Sonic is fundamentally broken the way it is now.

    Maybe a good Sonic game cannot be created without some fundamental changes in the mechanics. Here's a challenge, replay the first couple of Sonic games. Man, it sure is fun to go fast... until you run into an enemy or spikes you couldn't possibly see and react to in time. There's no reaction time at all. Sonic doesn't seem to be about going fast most times with all the annoying obstacles in the way.

    You're in the wrong circles if you think people are complaining about Nintendo, man. Like who cares what people think, do what you like doing.
     
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    Hyper Sonic is where if you collect all the Super Emeralds, you can transform. he flashes between the chaos/super emerald colors and can preform a flash which kills all enemies on screen. it's a thing, believe me.
     
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    To be honest, I still hold Sonic in high regard. (Probably because I wasn't there for most of the stinkers.) My two favorite games of all time for the Sonic franchise is Sonic & Knuckles 3 and Sonic R.

    Now, I've heard that Sonic R was considered a huge turd even when it came out, but as a kid, I loved playing as all of the different characters! (Except Amy. Pro-game tip from me: if you ever play Sonic R, never do Amy! She's slower than a snail covered in molasses in her stupid car!) It was fun, it introduced me to the racing genre, and it allowed me to laugh at all of the Tails Doll Creepypasta roaming around the internet. (Especially since Tails Doll was my favorite character in the game!)

    However, I'm not sure if anyone heard, but SEGA's releasing two brand new Sonic games that's being heralded as the change-up Sonic needed. Sonic Mania, a revisit to the old Genesis style of Sonic games, and Sonic Forces, the new 3D game that's supposed to feature both Modern and Classic Sonic, like in Sonic Generations. Plus, there's a Sonic movie in the works which is being directed by the same guy who did Deadpool. So, 2017 is looking pretty up for the Blue Blur! Whether things actually finally go his way? Well see later this year.
     
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