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Improve a Pokémon v.2

Discussion in 'Pokémon General' started by Gwoomy, Nov 5, 2017.

  1. ShinigamiMiroku

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    Wouldn't that just make them an inferior Staryu/Starmie? I mean, if we're going to mess with stats then I think it'd be good to boost its ATK to 95, making it more of a mixed Rain-sweeper; keep the opponent guessing, multiple options for offense, y'know? I mean, Golduck does get Ice Punch, Power-up Punch, Cross Chop, Shadow Claw, and so on; I think it'd be good to enable that while also keeping his special options open. He gets Swift Swim as his HA, so I think he's fast enough - at least on rain teams - to not need a speed boost.
     
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  2. Gwoomy

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    It's funny how you keep saying things about others' messages x)
     
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    Sorry. I'm not trying to be, like, confrontational or demeaning, and if anyone thinks that I apologize for coming across as such. :(
     
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    I think of Golduck as more of a doubles mon. With 105 speed x2 boosted from rain, having a little more speed goes a long way especially with tailwind being pretty common. The extra special attack helps with stab rain boosted water moves (like waterium z hydro pump) and having an extra psychic stab to go with its already multiple psychic moves it learns opens more effective options. Starmie is more suited for singles yes, since it is faster without rain, has more coverage, can heal, and remove hazards... but in doubles it isn't that great, which would make an enhanced Golduck more appealing to use imo.
     
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  5. ShinigamiMiroku

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    That's a good point, and given how the tournaments are doubles-focused such an option would definitely be appealing. There are a number of better options for hazard-removal in doubles (heck, IMO even Kabutops and Omastar would be better in doubles due to resistance to Stealth Rock) than Starmie.

    Are Kingdra and Ludicolo still threats on rain teams in doubles? It's been a few years since I looked into that setup...
     
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    I know its already an attack Flareon uses. But the title clearly says 'Improve a Pokémon.'
    Plus, Fire Tornado is a move which is more powerful.
     
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    I'm pretty sure they are, at least I know Kingdra is.
     
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    How about giving Eevee a stat boost? And maybe a deeper move pool to match other normal types. That way evolution could be something that's done for Eevee specifically for the type change and Eevee lovers like myself can keep using Eevee as is. On that note, how about making it so you can use everstones on Pokémon (I think that used to be a thing, but not anymore?) so they won't evolve even if not holding one? maybe there could be an item that reverses the process later. I know there's the b button, but it gets annoying pressing it every time a Pokémon levels up, especially if it can evolve at a lower level through happiness.
     
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    Drop Vulpix's ATK stat and raise its Sp. ATK stat to make it equal to its Sp. DEF and SPD stat.

    Also let A!Vulpix learn Energy Ball. It sucks how Ice-types are almost always exceedingly limited in the attacks it can learn...
     
  10. BraviaryScout

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    • Give Lurantis a slight buff to speed and maybe allow it to learn some other slash/claw moves like Metal Claw/Psycho Cut as egg moves.
    • Lunatone needs to learn a special rock move like Power Gem or Ancient Power.
    • Change Crabrawler's evolution process via Ice Stone instead of at an icy rock. (Thanks Mount Lanakila for being available to us so late) Also Crabominable could use a speed buff, given how it has a ton of weaknesses.
    • Musharna could get the Fairy type upon evolution and be able to learn something like Moonblast
     
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    I agree with all of this, especially Crabominable. Ice is a bad defensive typing, but how many Ice-types are fast? ONE. BLOODY. Pokémon. Sneasel/Weavile. They're all otherwise "tanky" (really, how tanky can you be when you're taking at least double-damage from, what, six types?). It makes even LESS sense since Crabrawler is faster than he is tanky. :annoyed:
     
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    I'd argue Froslass as well, but the number is extremely low. Totally agree that Ice is terrible defensively, it's got 4 weaknesses and it only resists itself.

    That's my biggest gripe with Crabominable other than the fact that you have to finish 95% of the main story to even get to the place where it evolves. (Or cheat like I did and trade with my best friend since he had finished the game already) It is a fantastic attacking Pokémon, able to learn Ice, Fighting, Dark, Water, Electric and so many more through breeding and TM, it's a jack-of-all trades when it comes to physical attack. And all those weaknesses it's got; the lack of speed means that it's going to be taking quite a few hits. Can name a few other Pokémon with these traits as well. (I'm looking at you Parasect)
     
  13. ShinigamiMiroku

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    Okay, four. And yeah, forgot Froslass (and A!Ninetales, who apparently has a SPD of 109)...

    But yeah, for such a good Fighting-type you have to wait a LONG time to evolve him, as with Glaceon. I LOVE Ice-types, but I almost feel like they're continually an afterthought. But then, when you have a meta that revolves around EQ and Stealth Rock, it's probably not surprising...

    I love Parasect (caught HGSS!Mewtwo using just my Parasect), but yeah, it's typing (despite double-resisting EQ) doesn't do it any favours.
     
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    Agreed. It's an interesting Pokémon. But if it has Dry Skin and gets hit by a Fire move....RIP.
     
  15. ShinigamiMiroku

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    It's RIP regardless of if it has Dry Skin or Effect Spore due to innate 4x damage from fire attacks (though it may survive a weaker one if rain is in effect... maybe). Due to Spore and how Effect Spore gets in its way, I'd say Dry Skin is its best ability.
     
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    Give Shaymin Calm Mind. Seriously, if Shaymin-L gets CM then I'm pretty sure it can take special hits a little more seriously, not only that, but Seed Flare would hit a lot harder.
     
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    Give Tropius and Sharpedo tails. They just looks so incomplete without them. Ideally, Sharpedo's tail would be in the shape of an actual torpedo.
     
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    I would give Naganadel the Bug-Dragon typing, therefore making sense of it's buglike structure, and cooling the raging bitterness and despair I have over Game Freak denying me the typing for so long.
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    Give Jynx and evolution so it once more parallels the magmar and electabuzz lines. Make that evolution have good defences so it can actually take a hit without dying in one go.

    Also, it wouldn't hurt for luxray to be part dark-type. And for milotic to get a Mega.
     
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