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Colress: Hero, Villain, or Perhaps Something Greater?

Discussion in 'Other Pokémon Games' started by Almandine-G, Nov 5, 2015.

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  1. Almandine-G

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    Colress! That nerd with the Internet Explorer hair found in Pokémon BW2. A "for-science" kind of guy, Colress will do anything to achieve his goal of unlocking a Pokémon's true power, whether it means working with Team Plasma, fighting the player, or even using a machine. But do his methods make him a bad person? One could argue he's selfish in his motives, but he does learn that the old method of working for Team Plasma is a no-go after fighting the player. That's where I pose the question found in the title! What's your opinion on the geek? Do you admire him, or perhaps despise him? Or maybe you find yourself somewhere in the middle... And would you agree with his methods, or do you think he should have taken a different approach?
     
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  2. LadySmugleaf

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    He never stuke me as a villain. But I don't think he's a hero either.
    He knows what's going on, and I feel he just sees it as a good way to get data.
     
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  3. Pixel

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    If anything, Colress is sort of like the spoiler for what Plasma's true motives are in BW2. As for whether he's a villain or hero, he sits somewhere in the middle, much like N. He's part of a villainous team, but nothing he does on his own impacts the story in an evil way, and when he does do anything evil, it's under the watchful eye-and-visor-combo of Ghetsis. From what I remember, the only thing he does when not with Plasma is battle the player, remove an obstacle, and give an item that also removes an obstacle. He also drones on, and on, but we're bothering about that right now.
    In summary, I think that Colress is just another Team Plasma grunt, but with more dialogue and hair that looks freakin' awesome.
     
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  4. WavePearl

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    I would argue that (if we were using tabletop RPG alignments) Colress is a true neutral--while he may be part of Team Plasma, he doesn't appear to be actively supporting them. At the same time, while he actively helps the player out, he isn't actively seeking to become an ally. He just conveiniently weaves through both sides of the narrative, helping the faction that benefits him the most at that moment, even if that means helping the villians.
     
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  5. Lord Vain

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    In my opinion Colress is basically an anti-hero and I'm surprised nobody else has brought up that word specifically yet. lol He's a central character in the game as the so called new leader of Team Plasma, but in the end he just wanted to further his research and honestly has views that clash with the ones help by the newer Team Plasma, Colress will help either the Team he has pledged allegiance to or the player depending on the situation and in the end really doesn't appear to hold any form of sincere hostility towards the player nor Unova as a whole. He can appear either good or bad, but in the end is never shown to be sinister or anything like that, Colress is just out to get his research done whether it means aiding in the crimes or testing the player and helping them shut down Ghetsis and the rest of the team, himself included. Overall I honestly like the guy, he was my favourite character from the Black and White games, Colress just didn't care either way so long as he got to have fun with his research and was just a very mysterious man. Plus, you know, I can't deny that his battle theme is pretty awesome, and he even gave you a Master Ball after you beat him a second time in the Plasma Frigate at the P2 Laboratory, which was really convenient.
     
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    Colress is a man who wants to get what he wants without caring how we gets it at all. While he did do some awful things 'in the name of science', I don't think he's entirely a bad person at all. For example, he was not opposed to the idea of trainers drawing out the optimal power of Pokémon through love and friendships, which makes me think he's really tolerable and is open to a lot of different ideas. "The latent power of Pokémon... What is the best way to bring it out? If possible, I want it to be the trust between Trainers and their Pokémon, just as it has always been." and "I see! If Trainers believe in their Pokémon to the fullest extreme, as you do, their Pokémon partners will also give everything they have! So that must be the answer I've been looking for. Still, I'm glad you won. For one thing, I detested Ghetsis from the start!" Honestly I think he's more of a good person rather than a bad one. He doesn't even really want to use scientific means to increase a Pokémon's power and he aides you on your adventure more than once. Besides N, Colress is the least evil of the Pokémon antagonists, in my opinion. Man, BW(2) had some great characters and Colress is certainly one of the most interesting to me. Not to mention his battle theme is seriously amazing and fits him too.
     
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  7. mweep

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    Colress is not evil, for sure. Though that depends on your definition of the word evil, Colress really just wants to further advance his research, and himself. He's selfish, for sure, but he does have ideals. He just does what is necessary to get things done. He's not completely a bad person either, as he shows compassion for the player and his goal is really just to make Pokémon more powerful. Not necessarily bad, his methods aren't great... but definitely not evil
     
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    I like Colress. I didn't think he was evil at all, even though he was working for Team Plasma at the time. He quit, didn't he?
     
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    I think Colress was just a dude with nothing better to do than help organize some crime. I didn't really feel like he had an malicious intent, but he didn't really seem like a person who wanted to create a change for the better. He sort of just seemed bored.
     
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  10. Wizard

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    Colress is my type of man, he loves science, but he wants science and his ideals to be the same thing. He was only working with Team Plasma in order to accomplish what HE wanted to accomplish. He is a man of ideals, trying to change the world for the better. Is that not what most protagonists are trying to do in Pokémon (Just kidding, the protagonists are pretty much all 10 year old kids who like beating up other peoples pets for money with legendary Pokémon that nobody has ever caught before in the history of the world.) I'm not saying that I approve of all that Colress did, he still worked for Team Plasma, but at least he had solid reasoning. And by no means am I saying that he is a hero, because he did not do anything worthy of being called a "hero."

    I like him though, one of the most complete characters in all of Pokémon.
     
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  11. Nate

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    I found him to just do whatever benefits his research the most. I guess like Shadow is Sonic he just does whatever and picks whatever side to further his research into how to unlock the potential of Pokémon.
     
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    Colress was always something greater to me. There was always a lot of mystery around him and there was always so much potential for his character. To me he fit in well with the games overall theme and exploring the shades of grey hidden between the layers of black and white. He was an example of how you could do the wrong thing for the right reason and vice versa. In the end I always liked him and wish his character had received more significance and development.
     
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