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Counter team

Discussion in 'Festival Plaza' started by Martsian, Mar 6, 2015.

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  1. Martsian

    Martsian Gym leader

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    Well today i came up with a new idea, so i want to try it and see how will it go! In this thread, i will post a team of my choice and YOU have to post a perfect counter team in a comment! By the term "perfect counter team" i mean that you have to post a team that completely wrecks my team! One team will be posted every week! Then i will test the starting team against your counter team with a friend of mine! THE TEAM WHICH WILL GO BETTER IS THE PERFECT COUNTER TEAM AND THE WINNER WILL POST NEXT'S WEEK'S STARTING TEAM! I hope you like it since it is something new!

    Rules:

    1)Your teams have to be really specific! In order to do that, make it on PS server and then copy/paste it here!
    2) My team will be a specific tier( f.e RU tier). Your counter team has to be that tier or below that! (f.e for a RU team you cannot post an UU or OU team!)
    3) The battles of your teams and my team will be posted in this thread so be in touch!

    So, the first team i have to post is an OU team:

    [3D='beedrill-mega']

    Beedrill @ Beedrillite
    Ability: Sniper
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Drill Run
    - U-turn
    - Poison Jab
    - Protect

    [3D='mandibuzz']

    Mandibuzz (F) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Overcoat
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
    Bold Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Defog
    - Roost
    - Toxic
    - Foul Play

    [3D='rotom-wash']

    Rotom-Wash @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Volt Switch
    - Thunderbolt
    - Trick
    - Hydro Pump

    [3D='sylveon']

    Sylveon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Pixilate
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
    Calm Nature
    - Hyper Voice
    - Toxic
    - Protect
    - Wish

    [3D='latios']

    Latios (M) @ Life Orb
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Draco Meteor
    - Psyshock
    - Roost
    - Hidden Power [Fire]

    [3D='bisharp']

    Bisharp @ Life Orb
    Ability: Defiant
    EVs: 252 HP / 212 Atk / 44 Def
    Adamant Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Knock Off
    - Sucker Punch
    - Iron Head

     
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  2. Noctis

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    [3D='beedrill-mega']

    Beedrill @ Beedrillite
    Ability: Sniper
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Drill Run
    - U-turn
    - Poison Jab
    - Protect

    [3D='mandibuzz']

    Mandibuzz (F) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Overcoat
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
    Bold Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Defog
    - Roost
    - Toxic
    - Foul Play

    [3D='rotom-wash']

    Rotom-Wash @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Volt Switch
    - Thunderbolt
    - Trick
    - Hydro Pump

    [3D='sylveon']

    Sylveon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Pixilate
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
    Calm Nature
    - Hyper Voice
    - Toxic
    - Protect
    - Wish

    [3D='latios']

    Latios (M) @ Life Orb
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Draco Meteor
    - Psyshock
    - Roost
    - Hidden Power [Fire]

    [3D='bisharp']

    Bisharp @ Life Orb
    Ability: Defiant
    EVs: 252 HP / 212 Atk / 44 Def
    Adamant Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Knock Off
    - Sucker Punch
    - Iron Head


    All right I shall give this a go!

    [3D='skarmory']

    Skarmory @ Rocky Helmet
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 248 HP / 236 Def / 24 Spe
    Bold Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Roost
    - Spikes
    - Whirlwind

    As a starter I would have Skarmory go first. I see that your team doesn't have any hazards to throw out so Defog on Skarmory isn't necessary. I would set up the stealth rock for the Beedrill. It's going to have a hard time fighting Skarmory, especially when Stealth Rocks come into play. Though there is a Defog on your team, without Mandibuzz, Skarmory will be terrifying with it's Hazards.

    [3D='thundurus']
    Thundurus-Therian (M) @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Volt Absorb
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Nasty Plot
    - Thunderbolt
    - Focus Blast
    - Hidden Power [Ice]

    This guy right here is for that Mandibuzz. Sure, she's powerful, but Thundurus-Therian can almost one shot it with a Thunderbolt.

    252 SpA Thundurus-T Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mandibuzz: 332-392 (78.3 - 92.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    [3D='venusaur']
    Venusaur @ Venusaurite
    Ability: Overgrow
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
    Modest Nature
    - Giga Drain
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Sleep Powder
    - Synthesis

    Now this is one of my favs to use since it's so OP, and it definitely goes well against this team. Sylveon can be two-shot by Sludge Bomb despite it's tankiness to Special Attacks. Giga Drain is a huge offensive against Rotom-Wash and, ultimately, Rotom is unable to trick a Pokémon that holds a Mega Stone.

    [3D='sableye']
    Sableye @ Leftovers
    Ability: Prankster
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
    Impish Nature
    - Taunt
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Knock Off
    - Foul Play

    Now this guy is completely for utility. Taunt to avoid the Defog from Mandibuzz. Knock off for leftovers, Foul Play would do some oober damage to Beedrill and one-shot it -- and it can tank incoming attacks from a Mega Beedrill.

    [3D='garchomp']
    Garchomp @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Rough Skin
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge
    - Outrage
    - Dragon Claw

    This bad boy here is for both Bisharp and Latios. Though it is slower than Latios, Choice Scarf will give it speed priority over Latios. Since it's technically faster with Choice Scarf, it can one shot Latios with a Dragon attack and Bisharp with Earthquake,

    [3D='clefable']
    Clefable @ Leftovers
    Ability: Magic Guard
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
    Calm Nature
    - Aromatherapy
    - Moonblast
    - Wish
    - Cosmic Power

    To be honest, I wasn't too sure what to put as the sixth as I felt like four Pokémon on my team could completely counter all six, however I felt a Utility/Special Wall would be a perfect end to this counter team. Aromatherapy and Wish to heal switches, Cosmic Power to boost tankiness, and Moonblast for Latios.


    Tell me what you think!
     
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  3. Spammernoob

    Spammernoob A Spammer or a Noob?

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    So... ​
    Diancie-Mega @ Diancite​
    Ability: Magic Bounce​
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe​
    Modest Nature​
    - Calm Mind​
    - Rock Polish​
    - Moonblast​
    - Earth Power​
    The first thing I notice is how weak you are to M-Diancie. Nothing switches in, as most things get 2HKO'd In fact, the only checks are Sylveon and M-Beedrill, the latter of which can be defeated after Rock Polish. While it's pretty hard to set up, Mandibuzz is free set-up, which is perfect because...​

    Scizor @ Choice Band​
    Ability: Technician
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
    Adamant Nature
    - Bullet Punch
    - Knock Off
    - Superpower
    - U-turn

    As Mandibuzz is one of your Physically Defensive walls, Scizor baits it in nicely, giving Diancie a free set-up turn. It also beats Sylveon and M-Beedrill, both of M-Diancie's checks. Unfortunately for you, Rotom-W is not a switch-in, as U-turn is a solid 2HKO, and allows Scizor to pivot to something that can kill it, suck as M-Diancie.



    Keldeo @ Leftovers
    Ability: Justified
    EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Substitute
    - Calm Mind
    - Secret Sword
    - Scald

    Since the previous 2 Pokémon have a (somewhat) awful time vs. Bisharp, Keldeo counters it perfectly. A Substitute on a predicted Sucker Punch/Switch means free set-up or damage, which is very important in whittling down Latios. In addition, it can serve as a check to M-Beedrill, 2HKOs Rotom-W at +1, and outright beats Mandibuzz.



    Tyranitar @ Choice Scarf​
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
    Naive Nature
    - Stone Edge
    - Pursuit
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Beam

    Since M-Diancie's Modest, Latios poses as a severe threat to the first half of the team. That's where T-tar comes in, Pursuit-trapping the Latios. That's pretty much it.


    Talonflame @ Choice Band​
    Ability: Gale Wings​
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe​
    Adamant Nature​
    - Brave Bird​
    - Flare Blitz​
    - U-turn​
    - Tailwind​
    Important check to M-Beedrill, can easily come in on a U-turn. CB Brave Bird does a lot, esp. with many ways to whittle Rotom-W and Mandibuzz. It outright beats sylveon, and can either 50/50 the Bisharp, or pick it off if it's low. It's a very solid revenge-killer that forms a Volt-turn core with Scizor, which can be problematic for your team. ​
    Latias (F) @ Life Orb​
    Ability: Levitate​
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe​
    Timid Nature​
    - Defog​
    - Healing Wish​
    - Psyshock​
    - Draco Meteor​
    Healing Wish support. Even though no hazards on your team, Defog is general utility, which can be replaced with HP Fighting. It also outspeeds HP Fire Latios by 1 point, and can hit Sylveon hard with Psyshock. It also destroys Mandi w/ Draco, and counters Rotom-W. It only really has trouble with Bisharp and M-Beedrill(which can't switch in.)​
     
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  4. Martsian

    Martsian Gym leader

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    Well i did tested your teams against mine! I tested them with a very good friend of mine, PANOS FLOZ! Unfortuantely hi ie not a LV member!(yet) THe 2 teams were tested with one battle each! I took my team and PANOS took yours! Unfortunately @[member="Spammernoob"] team lost against mine, @[member="Noctis"] team won! So, @[member="Noctis"] you can post next week's starting team in this thread! Here are the replays:\

    http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-217730510 Against Noctis' team! (I changed Nasty plot on Thundurus and put volt switch because it is choice specs!!!)


    http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-217737470 Against Spammernoob's team!
     
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