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Do you think GF should add patches to their 3DS games in order to change the meta?

Discussion in 'Festival Plaza' started by Noctis, Apr 10, 2015.

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  1. Noctis

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    This question spurrs off of a former topic I created a couple months ago about reworking the competitive scene completely.

    However, with that being said, typically we do not see a change to a Pokémon until a new game comes out. I feel like because of this, many players stray away from the competitive scene as players feel like they are limited to what they can play in order to win. And, unfortunately, OU, UU, etc isn't included in our cartridge games.

    I think it'd be awesome to see nerfs and buffs to Pokémon every month or so, that way we can see more Pokémon being introduced in and out of the meta.

    Do you think this would be a good idea for GF to implement?
     
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  2. Martsian

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    i think that would be difficult to achieve! That's because if every Pokémon changes every month or so, it would be difficult to learn how to play properly! You won't know what Pokémon your opponent has! It would make the metagame harder i think!
     
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    It might become really complicated as you wouldn't have enough time to learn the meta before they change it again. It seems interesting though, but I can't see it happening anytime soon.
     
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    Of course this is implying those that have been reworked doesn't get reworked again until way later.
     
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    I think this should only be done if there is something that is completely breaking the metagame, otherwise wait until the next game.
     
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    While difficult to achieve and regulate, it could produce some interesting affects.

    However, I think the stability of the Pokémon stats/abilities/etc is something that gives the game some basis--the players provide the creativity.
     
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    I don't like the idea of a fluctuation between nerfing and buffing, especially as frequently as a monthly basis. I would, however, enjoy one-time buffs to Pokémon who need it, and exceptional nerfs (although to a much lesser extent than the buffing) to other Pokémon (Mega Kanga, anyone)? If they don't nerf the stats, the next logical thing they could do is nerf the ability 'Parental Bond'. I see many more Pokémon who need buffing than ones who need nerfed. Heatmor is a great example. Maybe Pokémon could acquire new moves as well?
    Shell Smash Clawitzer? I'm in!

    What I would REALLY like to see is new (and hopefully free) Mega downloads. Obviously, this update would modify the Pokémon in your game cartridge for its ability to mega evolve, then you're just gifted to its Mega Stone via Mystery Gift.
     
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    Welp... is Pokémon turning into League of Legends? :[

    I'd like to say yes, as most competitive games (excluding Smash Bros Melee) have had these online updates, and Pokémon could very easily have them too. However... Pokémon is inherently not a competitive game, as accuracy/secondary effects/critical hits are luck-based. Therefore, Pokémon is unbalanced, and effectively cannot be fixed without some major reworks to the luck-based mechanics (ie. Skillmons)

    With that in mind, I find it relatively pointless to try and balance an unbalanced game. Pokémon is first and foremost a kid's game, not a competitive one. Therefore, I don't think it's necessary, nor would Nintendo ever actually do it.
     
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    I personally heavily disagree to Game Freak applying patches, much less do I believe that they would do such a thing. The idea of a patch to a Pokémon game to nerf or buff Pokémon is ridiculous in what it expects of players of the Metagame, we can't be responsible for keeping track of what Game Freak decides they want players to use in that particular month based on their doling out of buffs and nerfs, and it would put a large amount of strain on breeders as they would be forced to maintain a huge library of Pokémon on the chance that one of them gets a buff.

    Moving on to my second idea, is that nerfs and buffs stunt the growth of the meta. Sure Mega Kang is powerful now. Teams will begin to run heavy anti-Mega Kang, which will cause the rise of something that can destroy whatever destroys Mega Kang, ultimately resulting in the growth of the Meta. Decreasing Mega Kang's power would only result in an artificial stunting in growth of the meta, and certain Pokémon may never see the light of competitive day because of it. To put it more simply, a nerf or buff is a long term solution to a short term problem.

    And lastly, if Gamefreak would ever actually think about nerfing Pokémon in their games, we'd know. Why? VGC Ban lists. If they thought something was so blatantly overpowered that it warranted a nerf, it would be on the banlists. However, the banlists have remained stagnant, aside from the occasional legendary addition, making it clear to me that Gamefreak feels their game is balanced.

    But, I am all for a patch that would introduce more Pokémon or more Megas. Hell, I'd pay money for it.
     
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    Quite simply, I think this "monthly update" idea wouldn't be a very good idea, for reasons that have been mentioned above. Although I would love to see Blaziken and Mega Kanga nerfed, realistically GF would never do it.

    What I would like however is if they made one big patch every year or so. The patch would basically just be basic buffs some of the most worthless Pokémon out there. Luvdisc, for example. There's really no reason to use it, as it's outclassed by almost every Water type. Perhaps some basic stat increases, more moves, and a new ability might be in order? Now, I'm not saying you have to go make the thing one of the top competitive Pokémon, or even anywhere close. Just buff it and some others like it to the point where they at least have their own unique purpose. Shedinja is a good example of this. Is it great competitively? Not at all. But does it at least fill a unique role? Yes! It doesn't need to be as drastic as Shedinja, but you get the idea.

    Also, while directly nerfing Pokémon is something Gamefreak would never do, making counters is another story. One GF employee actually said that they make megas "with current threats in mind." Mega Rayquaza was a counter to the meta game I feel like it would be nice if they buffed some less-used Pokémon now and then as counters to some of the really popular threats. These Pokémon wouldn't be made too great, and likely still wouldn't be used very often, but it would be nice if someone who was really annoyed by a certain powerful Pokémon could have a really solid counter if they felt like they needed it.

    So yeah, overall I just think Gamefreak should buff Pokémon and create counters every new game or so just to keep things a bit more interesting.
     
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