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Does evolution hurt?

Discussion in 'Pokémon General' started by oghond, May 29, 2018.

  1. oghond

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    I’ve always wondered if evolution in Pokémon is painful. It certainly looks that way in the anime, at least to me. Do you have any ideas?
     
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    What gives you the impression that it may be painful? =o
     
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    I mean, MEGA Evolution has been confirmed to be extremely strenuous/painful for the Pokémon, but I feel normal evolution is at most just a bit tiring (Like in Dawn's Piplup's case when it kept struggling to not evolve).
     
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    Because in the anime, it literally looks as though the Pokémon are pushing, pulling, etc. certain body parts out of their own bodies (see Chimchar’s and Staravia’s evolutions to see what I am talking about). And then Mega Evolution happens, and it gets EVEN WORSE. Plus, some of them are screaming. That HAS to hurt.

    I’m not talking about the effects themselves, but the way evolution and Mega Evolution look in the anime with all the body parts coming out and all the reformations. It looks painful as heck, and yet when they’re FINISHED, they look perfectly fine.
     
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    I think the yelling is more of a power-up cry as the evolution energy starts to pour out. I doubt it's very painful. I like to think of it as more a sudden, extreme growth spurt, and the sheer amount of energy in the evolution acts as a painkiller if there's any pain involved.
     
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    Huh. Interesting. Though that still doesn't explain how Pokémon appear to be literally reshaping their own bodies- and doing it themselves- in the anime.

    And if you want to know what I'm talking about, please see Staravia's evolution into Staraptor. I am 100% convinced that Staravia is doing all the body-shifting itself.
     
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    honestly i think of it as kind of like yelling and screaming while doing martial arts -- it's not yelling or screaming of pain if there are any -- it's more yelling to get the body more pumped up, etc.

    and the explanation for Pokémon reshaping their bodies seems like waaayyy too complex for a simple explanation. @__@
     
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    Every evolution is different. For some, it could be painful, but I think most of their cries are from getting a high on a power surge.

    I do believe that Pokémon have fatigue and exhaustion shortly after evolving, similar to how molting animals need time to recuperate after doing so. Evolution looks like while it does get a boost of power, it also requires a good amount of the Pokémon's strength and stamina to go through the process.
     
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    Thoughts on the whole “it’s the Pokémon themselves, not the light, that’s doing the reshaping” thing? In other words, can a Pokémon push, pull, stretch, etc. on its own body in order to help speed up the evolution process?
     
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    Its painful, reallllllllyyyyyy painful...
     
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    I think it all depends on there typing and structure, like for example it could be painless for but types since it's basically a metamorphosis, as for rock types it could hurt as if they were being broken down and put and have other pieces stuck to them, and steel types could feel like their being melted down and reshaped like a broke sword into a dagger.
     
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    In one of the Mystery Dungeon games when some characters evolve, they say they felt weird, but also more powerful. I don't think it's inherently a good or bad feeling, just different and hard to explain for them. Mega Evolution, on the other hand... just about every mega Pokédex entry talks about how the Pokémon ends up in a lot of pain or loses control over its own actions and turns aggressive.
     
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    Then again, that may just be RotomDex trolling people.

    Also, I've always wondered about whether or not a Pokémon is able to control its own body during evolution, and reshape itself into its new form. Do you think this is possible?
     
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    If it's painful, I don't think it's any worse than some mild growing pains. I personally haven't seen any signs of Pokémon being in pain when they evolve. It may come as a bit of a surprise, or a Pokémon may kind of 'make' themselves evolve, but I don't think it hurts. If anything, I think that it is painful, both mentally and physically, for a Pokémon to resist evolution when they're ready for it, but that's just me.
     
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    By “make” themselves evolve, you mean the whole reshaping thing I was talking about earlier, right?

    For the record: I have divided evolution into five main types, based on what they look like in the anime. They are:

    Decifercatus (example: ): A type of evolution sequence in which all parts are clearly outlined in the light, and all “steps” are outlined. By far the most common type.

    Formeti (example: ): A type of evolution in which the Pokémon’s body “explodes” in a barrage of light, before reforming into its new form. The least common type.

    Abubious (example: ): A type of evolution in which the light goes on a complete runoff, before solidifying. No parts can be clearly made out until it fully solidifies. This type itself has four subtypes:
    • Abubious-Volga (example: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ANP8aozYks): The main type of Abubious Evolution and the one that fits the main description.
    • Abubious-Formecha (example: ): The light starts out like Decifercatus, but goes into Volga.
    • Abubious-Pokcratus (example: ): The light looks as though the Pokémon just came out of a Pokéball.
    • Abubious-Wycroft (example: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qRjuCwrx5Z0): The light starts out like Volga, but goes into Decifercatus.

    Revolvotatus (example: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PG-k46TLE_I- the clip’s in Hindi, but I think you’ll get the idea): The Pokémon deforms into a circular blob of light, which spins in a circle and then reforms into the new Pokémon.

    EvoPhonal (examples: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0YvhVTTIuyY, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2BE8HLlDp1Q, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Te4h5mD8ZCM): Pretty much everything else.
     
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    Just posted a follow-up thread! Enjoy!
     

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