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Dual Typed Moves

Discussion in 'Pokémon General' started by Achromatic, Mar 21, 2014.

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  1. Achromatic

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    In X/Y we were introduced the concept of dual typed moves, like Flying Press. Is this something you would like to see again, or is the concept just not worth expanding upon?
     
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    Yeah, I'd like to see more of that!

    That would give so much more possibilities for new moves, and more creative moves will come.
    It will also affect the competitive field!
     
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    More creativity with moves is wonderful and I wouldn't have it any other way. But something makes me wary of dual typed moves. They could be incredibly broken if they're not kept in check. Flying Press is an interesting move because the dual typed nature of it doesn't so much increase its coverage or power, it just changes the types it can hurt. Flying and fighting have, for the most part, opposite strengths, so they don't line up and make the move over powered. As far as I know, the only defensive type that both flying and fighting together can hurt is dark-fighting, so Scrafty and Pangoro beware. This is what dual typed moves should be about. Not making massively powered combos but rather making a unique type coverage using two different types. It's a great way to increase a Pokémon's STAB coverage. I'll admit that before gen 6 I was totally against the idea of dual type moves, but now that I see it in action I've been convinced that it could work.

    A question I have about dual typed moves is this: is STAB calculated twice if the Pokémon has both of the move's types? Flying Press is listed as a fighting type move so maybe STAB is only calculated for that type. If not, I'd like to see moves with both types listed.

    I'm trying to think of a unique type combo now. Maybe grass and rock? (A great move for Cradily to learn!) Its effectiveness against fire, bug, flying and ground is neutralised, while keeping some of its original strengths and weaknesses.
     
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    Dual typed moves would be very interesting with competitive battling and more. New strategies could be made or new combos.
     
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    I would also really really like to see more combo moves. I mean, you had the three "pledge" moves, but who the fuck uses that?
    You should be able to combine more moves to get epic combos and awesome additional effects!

    Whirlpool + Leaf Tornado + Fire Spin :o
     
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    I can understand the potential, but in addition to potentially breaking the game, it would also add yet another layer of type information players would have to memorize
     
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    I'm fine with there being one or two but if they add a bunch I feel like things will get ridiculous. Right now we have one dual-typed move that only one (excluding Smeargle) can learn which I'm fine with but if they make tons and tons of moves like it would be pretty crazy.
     
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    I agree with RedScizor and WavePearl; sure, having a few dual type moves would be pretty cool, not to mention they're another way of planning strategy. but too many would get a bit confusing and even more for people to memorize.
     
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    ^This

    With dual type Pokémon already confusing us competitive noobs I don't think dual typed moves would encourage new ppl in (already I'm kinda put off by the giant type chart...) Plus I don't see any disadvantages of dual type moves vs mono type moves that do similar damage. So wouldn't mono type moves just be phased out completely?
     
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    Definitely agree with this. It is cool right now, but this is the kind of addition that could make or break the game. Just a few combo moves, cool, I'm all for it. If they add too many though it would get a little annoying.
    So... Kind of like the mega evolutions.
     
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    I'd love to see dual-typed moves, it adds a whole lot more strategy to the game; I like strategy.

    I use pledge moves D:

    Scrafty Edit: Please don't double post.
     
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    @Kednick- I've merged your posts, in the future please use the edit button if you have another thought in your previous post. Thank you!

    Flying Press felt a bit deadweight since Hawlucha gets access to High Jump Kick, a better STAB move and plus it hits Rock and Steel types harder. Not to mention Hawlucha's movepool is pretty barren too and it wouldn't mind both HJK and Acrobatics. Sure dual type moves can "free" a moveslot but at the same time waste a moveslot (it depends on the combination). I wouldn't mind more dual type moves; they don't confuse me but it's like a double edged sword.
     
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