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Kingdra vs. Suicune

Discussion in 'Festival Plaza' started by The Unknown, May 28, 2013.

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Which Pokemon is better for Competitive Battling?

  1. Kingdra

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  2. Suicune

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  1. The Unknown

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    Hey guys. Today's competitive battling discussion will be about two UU set up sweepers. Kingdra (with Dragon Dance) and Suicune (with Calm Mind) can be dangerous threats if not taken care of right away.

    I think Suicune is the better Pokémon because it has greater defenses that would allow it to set up more calm minds than Kingdra can D-dance. Suicune's most dangerous set has three moves that provide perfect coverage, electric/ice that covers every type and STAB water. Kingdra's coverage is pretty good with Outrage and Waterfall, however, Empoleon resists both moves and can attack with its high special attack. Flygon can also switch in on a Dragon Dance Kingdra, and if Kingdra isn't at +2 or higher, then Flygon can take care of Kingdra (by killing it or forcing it to lock on outrage). On the other hand, Suicune is more difficult to counter, but it's doable with Shaymin and Roserade as long as they are faster than Suicune and don't let Suicune boost its stats multiple times.


    Feel free to share your thoughts on Kingdra and Suicune!
     
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  2. ID Zeta

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    Are you assuming that Kingdra isn't in the rain? With Swift Swim, it outspeeds all of it's threats and can easily take care of them, even unboosted. Suicune is bulkier, yes, but it can't counter faster threats. In this metagame, speed is everything, at least to me. I'd have to go with Kingdra in or out of the rain.
     
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  3. The Unknown

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    Yeah, I wasn't thinking about swift swim. Even though it has that ability, it is rarely utilized in a metagame where no Pokémon can use drizzle ability. When I think of UU, I think of bulky offensive teams, stall teams, and balanced teams. Kingdra has a hard time beating a core of steel/water types like Slowbro and Registeel; Suicune has its issues with fast Electric and Grass types, but its variety of options (I might sound redundant, but it's true) and ability to take hits (along with great sp. atk) just makes me feel that Suicune is superior to Kingdra.
     
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