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Lavender town Legend - fact or Fiction?

Discussion in 'Creative Zone' started by Myuuriko, Oct 14, 2013.

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  1. Myuuriko

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    Okay this hallow theme has really dug into me now.x - x

    The Lavender town syndrome, some think its a pile off bull-whatever or merely just something to talk about. Since halloween is coming close I suppose it would be proper to start a topic about this.


    So, what IS this Lavender town syndrome just in case you havent heard of such a thing.


    According to the legend, Lavender Town Syndrome (also called The Lavender Town Tone, the Lavender Town Conspiracy, or the Lavender Town Suicides) was born when about 100 Japanese children aged between ten and 15 jumped to their deaths, hanged themselves, or mutilated themselves a couple of days following the release of Pokémon Red/Green. Other children supposedly complained about nausea and severe headaches.

    "Officials" eventually discovered that children hurt themselves or felt ill after listening to Lavender Town's background music. The myth states that the original Lavender Town theme contains a high-pitched tone that compels kids to lose their minds. Since our ability to hear high-pitched tones diminishes as we age, young children are supposed to be especially susceptible to the Lavender Town curse.

    Some versions of the myth state that the games' director, Satoshi Tajiri, explicitly asked for the tone to be put into the Red version of the game to "annoy" children that picked the Red version over Green (the myth also offers up a long explanation for Satoshi's supposed aversion to the color red thanks to violent encounters with school bullies). Almost every version of the myth accuses Nintendo of covering up the suicides to protect the Pokémon franchise's innocence and popularity.



    But truth be told, I myself was exposed to this kind of music. I was like 7 or 8 years old when I first got my hands on one of the first version of Pokémon Red. But hay I'm still breathing am I? So it's... Sorta like I lived to tell the tale? I dont know.xD

    I did play that game a few minutes ago, and really IT IS HEADACHE INDUCING. The one the American version sounded a little harsh in a slightly different scale but yes, what do you think about this? Yeah yeah I know this DOES sound like some creepy pasta or anything but a myth and a creepy pasta are two entirely different things. So what are your thoughts about this?
     
  2. Oim

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    It's 100% false and I know this for a fact-because I'm the one who wrote the original back in early 2010, back when I was really into creepypasta. The original was just "Lavender Town Tone", and not syndrome, that was added by someone else later, expanded upon as all good urban legends are. I understand I can't really take credit and prove it because I didn't sign a name (although if the comments still exist on YouTube, you'll see my YouTube name kamfrass by them), and probably won't be believed, but I'm telling you, it's 100% made up. It's borrowed from some actual science, such as binaural beats which do exist, and there are in fact certain frequencies that children can hear that adults cannot, but the story is bullshit. It was made up and posted on a YouTube comment for a video which was just the original Lavender town theme, then I posted a slightly re-worked version on 4chan's /x/ board, and then I kinda forgot about it, and found out months later that tons and tons of people have expanded upon it and talked about and created a real urban legend from it. Seeing that was one of the coolest feelings ever. There are multiple versions now, but you'll recognize the original if you see it start with "When "Pokémon" was first released..", with Pokémon in quotes.

    So yeah, it's 100% false and I'm 100% sure about that. It's no "in my opinion it's false", no, it is false, absolutely, period.. Which is probably for the best, right?
     
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  3. Myuuriko

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    Ah yes people tend to stretch the truth when it comes to urban legends. Of course if this was true Gamefreak isn't gonna get away with something as huge as kids committing them suicides over some huge as suicides and whatnot. Pokémon wouldn't have been as big as it is right now.

    And from that point, yes urban legends... It's kind of like the Slenderman but that should the in a whole different thread wouldn't it.^^; But yes.. This is half truth and half lie, the fact that Binatural beats affect children is a big truth right there thus giving the myth a sort of foothold but... The fact that its entire bullshit cuz of the youtube thing, yeah that was a bit of a downer. Hay I just looked that up myself, other than lots of hate in the comments... Well, it wasn't really... THAT informative so to speak.

    So to top this off the myth is actually dropped to the bullshit zone. Yeah I agree with you this is like a 120% false but I guess because of bloody 4chan and everything, it escalated to point of being an urban legend eh? :annoyed:
     
  4. Oim

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    Yeah, it caught on and people ran with it, and I find that kind of cool. I'm glad it caught on like it did. Mixing factual principles with a made up story gives it that one little edge of "maybe it could be true", the idea came from this "Cricket" cellphone thing for kids, adults can't hear it ring but children can. But yes, the story is false, although the Lavender Town theme in the original games is creepy and somewhat headache inducing, just due to the limied sound they had to work with and the high pitches.

    If you want a story or myth you make up to be believable, have a few elements of truth in there.
     
  5. Myuuriko

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    Ahh half lie and half truth, that's what real deception is made of sadly. :o

    And for the fact that the track itself is irritating and headache inducing to ears, it makes the lie even harder to topple.
     
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    Wait you wrote that?!?! That's cool^^ I've personally read all of the lavender tone/syndrome creepypastas. Some were hard to believe, especially the ones that lead to suicides but I agree that is false.
     
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  7. Myuuriko

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    Well creepypastas almost never bear any informative facts right there, but then again most of them are just messed up and interesting to read.^^;
     
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    That's so true lol. But for whatever reason I really want a hacked game. I think it would be interesting to experiance something like that.
     
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    To me the Lavender Town Syndrome myth seemed a little far fetched. When I read it I could see the facts in there, I could even see how those facts could make it believable, but there were just so many holes in it. I definitely found the story creepy, but I never found it to be as believable as a lot of people did. For me, it had nothing to do with the fact that it was stupid, because really it wasn't. It's actually a pretty good read. But all the versions I've read brought up ideas like Nintendo successfully hiding it. I wasn't totally on board before that, but I saw, I guess a slight possibility. But Nintendo hiding it? Let's get real here, the story implies that hundreds of kids committed suicide because of that song. That's not the kind of thing that any company could successfully hide. Besides that, even if they successfully hid that, why would they then leave Electric Soldier Porygon alone?

    And this is the most interesting thing I've read all day.
     
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    Thanks. I have to accept I may not be believed, and take that in stride. The only proof I have may not even exist anymore, a 3 going on 4 year old series of consecutive comments on a Youtube video where it was posted originally. I never went out of my way to even mention it before if the topic never came up, but since it came up, I might as well try to take some credit. Why not right? I never expected it to catch on the way it has and become a thing a community of fans built upon, but what a great thing. The more popular and widespread versions are not even mine and I'll admit to that. Try to be humble about it, but this one thread here, I'll break anonymity.

    One element that was always over-looked in later versions people told, like the retelling of a campfire tale, that I wanted to originally be important, was obsession. The original has the line "..in every case, despite the the elapsed time having reached the limit of the internal clock, the game had not progressed further than "Lavender Town"." (or something very similar, basically those words) The idea was the song compelled the children to stay there and listen to it, develop an obsession with the game, and end it tragedy due to this. But that's urban legends for you, when they grow they grow the way they will, and it's all good.


    If anyone is that curious, this is the video I posted it on. If you wanna dig through the comments of a few years back, if they are even still there, look for the name kamfrass with consecutive long comments marked as spam. I sure don't feel like digging there myself.
     
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    Well, that sure did took me a while but it's worth checking, but I dunno IF Nintendo actually DID hid this who in the bloody hell would let them get away with that much suicides...?
     
  12. JirachiWish

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    Haha, I've never heard of that but it is pretty creepy because it reminds me of something that happened to myself ... I once lost my mind after listening to an old broken radio make a very weird beeping sound... it was so loud and nauseating and I only heard it for a few seconds before turning it off, but my mind felt strange. It was really getting to me I guess. That night I went to sleep and lost control of myself; I was all of a sudden out of my bed and screaming. owo;

    That was pretty spooky, but I know that the Lavender Town myth wouldn't be true... why would anyone commit suicide because of a sound anyway, haha.
     
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    Digging up this month old thread just cause. XD
    Woah, so you made it Mr. Doima?! Who would've known. XD This is turning out to be an interesting day.

    But on the topic itself, I never thought of this as true. I actually loved the Lavander Town theme and stayed in that town for a while just because of that theme. I couldn't imagine people killing themselves because of a lovely, if somewhat creepy and headache inducing theme.

    Not to be mean, but if you say Japan and suicide together in one sentence, I wouldn't be surprised. Japan has a crazy rate of suicides compared to the rest of the world. When I first read this (on YouTube too, surprisingly. Maybe that video you linked was the one?), I just thought that yeah, the suicides could've happened, maybe not to THAT young of kids, and surely not because of the Lavander Town theme.

    Since I originally thought this legend came from Japan, I thought that maybe there really was a large amount of suicides, and coincidently it was during the time of Red/Green. News about the suicides would of course be spread and then some guy started spreading the cause of the suicides as the Lavander Town's theme. Or maybe some forgeiner misinterpreted the news, and thought that the duo des were caused by Pokémon.

    Whatever, this creepy pasta was interesting to read, and fun to bring up during Halloween (which has passed ages ago XD)
     
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    It's fake. Lavender Town Syndrome is started because of the high-pitch sequence in its music. Accroding to the creepypasta, this tune caused children to get sick and comite suicied. However, if you listen to it, it's most likely that you'll just get a headache and a little nauseas. There must be something in the tune that causes nausea.
     
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    I can play the lavender town theme on piano, guitar, and bass
     
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