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Mega Sceptile Sucks

Discussion in 'Festival Plaza' started by The Unknown, Dec 25, 2014.

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  1. The Unknown

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    If you want to be a successful competitive battler, then avoid Mega Sceptile at all costs! It's a high-risk, low reward Pokémon that will frustrate you and make you worse at battling! Seriously though, Grass/Dragon STAB coverage is awful, and the Pokémon is as frail as Magikarp. Clefable fries the pseudo-dragon with moonblast, and laughs at giga drain. Ice moves and flying moves are also prevalent in OU as priority moves, so sceptile will always be on the run.

    If you need a solid mega special attacker, take a look at mega venusaur, mega gardevoir, and mega diancie. These guys have better defenses or better coverage, and any of these will make you a better battler.

    So please, do yourself a favor and never consider Sceptile-mega as a viable option on any team!

    Please share your thoughts or experiences regarding Sceptile-Mega here!
     
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  2. Xarn

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    Well, so you will understand why it was a little hard to prepare for the POTW xD.

    It gains alittle of coverage with Earthquale, using it as mix sweeper is also good.

    The real trick that I forgot to tell you is abusing from its ability. You get a bonus with the ability and then it can sweep after deleting its menaces :)
     
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  3. DIO

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    Are you talking about specifically OU? Because I think you're right, it's really not good enough to become a linchpin in the metagame.

    However, I've heard different stories about doubles when combined with Discharge. :)
     
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  4. Minedreigon

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    Mega Sceptile is by no means a bad Pokémon in the overused tier. We're talking about a CLEANER (I find it hilarious that you say "omg use MGarde" when that's a wallbreaker who does well against stall, and MScept is a cleaner who does great against offensive teams instead, lmao. They do different roles.) that is immune to Thundurus' TWave, and one that can MEvo on a fair portion of the metagame. It's sub + 3 attacks set seems to be the best set for this thing. Priority is pretty common nowadays, sure, but Talonflame + Ice priority are some of the only checks to MScept, meaning it has a field day with Hyper Offensive teams, seeing as almost no offensive Pokémon can easily switch into this thing. Also, why do you randomly bring up Clefable as a counter? How does that affect it's viability to make it horrible? I can name quite a few good Pokémon countered by Clefable.

    After anything too threatening is removed, MScept is a very reliable cleaner vs offensive teams, being able to check Keldeo, Greninja, Rotom-W, Latios, etc. I don't get why you want no-one to use it.
     
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  5. Synthesia

    Synthesia Bird Keeper

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    THATS WHY I NEVER USE IT

    There are many counters to it like rain dance mega swampert, focus sash, hidden power ice zapdos etc, rotom.
    It has poor defences and it cant one shot things like it supposed to.

    But in doubles I've seen thundurous t wave first to sceptile because it has prankster
    good and then attacking all over the place. It is good when doubles but surely when fake out
    comes you know its over. If this is OU I will never use it. If it is doubles I could use it.
     
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  6. Xarn

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    Mega Sceptile checking Keldeo, Greninja, Latios are not solid checks, f you are going to switch in front of them, I think that many of the players here see this action like a very predictable one (receiving draco Meteor, Ice beam or a very annoying ice Shard even with worst results in mega evolution form makes you refuse to use Sceptile again). I know that it is viable as Cleaner, as I said before if it gets boost from an electric attack it can start with its job even earlier. But if it is hard to use in low ladder with only 1100-1200 points, what do you think that will happen when you reach 1300-1350? It lose its viability, and you will find that there are better options that Sceptile that give more coverage around.

    As you said I like trolling Thundurus, avoiding the very known Thunder Wave with priority is very nice when you abuse of Lightinground. But your opponent will search an opportunity to easily kill your Sceptile and then start to paralize again, it is very common because it is the main goal of a Thundurus user.
     
  7. Martsian

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    Well iagree that is fragile!
    BUT it has incredible speed and a spA that can kill everything!(base 145!)
    It hits pretty hard and it is a nice switch against rotom-W.
    So i apreciate it!
     
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  8. The Unknown

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    Thats interesting. I was a believer in M-Sceptile, but after I tried it, it's disappointingly weak and frail against neutral resisters. A mega Pokémon should be a central focus on your team, especially if you have an offensive team, and M-Sceptile only fits on offense. However, M-Sceptile is so bad that many of the metagame's common Pokémon can just come in and force a switch or kill it. It can beat slower water types, and sure substitute is nice, but it can't stay in all of the time because it's substitutions are easily breakable. Clefable is certainly a common Pokémon and can easily counter it, so I don't see why you don't think that's a valid argument. And M-Sceptile can certainly beat the Pokémon you listed, but then it's just a niche Pokémon which can only beat those Pokémon. It has no other viable uses, so it should not be used unless you desperately need to check any of the 4 you mentioned. That is why I said it sucks!!!!
     
  9. Almandine-G

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    Now, I'm probably going to say this because A: I love Sceptile and B: I'm fond of the weaker Pokémon, but I actually quite like M-Sceptile.

    True, it's hilariously Fragile, and cannot take ice type attacks, but (as mentioned above) it has plenty upsides:
    It's nearly impossible to paralyze it: the only way you really can is through Body Slam or Glare.
    It hits like a truck: with a massive movepool to take advantage of, as well as it becoming a...
    Threat to fire types: Sceptile transforms from weak to Fire, to deadly to fire, as it has moves like Earthquake to abuse.

    I won't say it's the best mega out there, far from it, but it certainly isn't bad. I really like it.
     
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  10. Hylian

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    Mega Sceptile is competitively viable for all the reasons people have stated above. On the note of it being frail, so is Greninja, but that didn't stop it from dominating the OU tier, albeit Mega Sceptile isn't as broken. It is also worth mentioning that Mega Sceptile is an excellent counter for Rotom-Wash, a heavily used Pokémon in many tiers. Combine Mega Sceptile with a Speed Boost Pokémon with a Sp. Atk raising move and Baton Pass, and you can turn Mega Sceptile into quite the monster.
     
  11. Barrage

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    To be honest, I haven't really played much ORAS OU yet. However, in X/Y OU, I always thought M. Sceptile would have been an interesting addition to flying spam teams. He does a really great job of punishing a Rotom-W (the bane of flying spam) switch-in with his disregard for WoW due to being a special attacker, being immune to Volt Switch after M.evolving, and 4x resisting Hydro Pump. I guess flying spam is probably a lot less popular now, so it may not fill that niche. M.Sceptile is definitely fragile and I absolutely agree that he is not a Pokémon you can slap on any team and expect to do well. I still think he fits some specific roles like the one I mentioned. Plus, the meta is still evolving and new -- may see a place for him yet!
     
  12. The Unknown

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    I agree with this. It has been difficult for me to place M-Sceptile on an offensive team, whereas it was easier for me to place other ORAS megas on teams. I guess it's just my bad experiences with using M-Sceptile that make me want to dislike it a lot.
     
  13. Spammernoob

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    lol It's in RU... Y U h8 tho?
     
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  14. Reckless

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    It may be a bit underwhelming but boy do I chuckle when I see opponents Mega Evolve it. I cackle a bit and then Ice Punch that walking dragon tree in the face. Thank you 4x super effectiveness. Why did it get Lightning rod as its ability, anyway?
     
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    Mega Sceptile is a GOD in Doubles. Raichu w/ Discharge + Mega Sceptile is my favorite Doubles strat
     
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  16. sohrob101

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    I need to step in here and say that this post is only mentioning mega sceptile when it comes to Singles. Mega-Sceptile was pretty much made for VGC and Doubles. it's speed is very nice that it outspeeds a lot of threats that threaten it. It has enough power to make up for it's ability, it destroys Milotic and Rotom-W, as well as Mega Salamence. And if you set up a tailwind with this thing, it can be even more deadly in doubles. Overall you guys need to see the big picture with sceptile, and think of its uses in all formats. Not mentioning VGC or doubles overall just makes this post seem like a hate message xD
     
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