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Modern society's problem and its solution

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Maantijger, Feb 11, 2016.

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  1. Maantijger

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    So a few days ago I was on FB when I came across this masterful post by this guy I didn't know. Actually I'm not gonna say any more, please have a look for yourself (also potato quality).

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    Poor guy, he needs a Valentine :(
     
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    "Why should we work?"

    What?

    I'm confused as to how working is a problem in our society. Please elaborate?
     
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  4. Wizard

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    Potato quality is best quality.

    I agree in that there is a chance we could spend a lot of time working right now in order to achieve what he wants in the future, and then we could live that life. However, not everything can be automated these days. If only...
     
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  5. Maantijger

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    I shared this on the staff chat yesterday and we came to the conclusion, the guy is a semi prophet who's warning us for the robot takeover, but he didn't elaborate it because he wanted to something fun instead of working on his prophecy.
     
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    I think the robots stole all his commas.
     
  7. Azazel

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    I couldn't read it's one big run on xD
     
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    Considering where we used to be a society where we had to work to survive, the fact that we have this much free time now is really more a blessing than the work is a curse
     
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    I don't get it, is this guy saying why is it that people still do jobs that can potentially be automated already? That question is pretty simple economically speaking, labour is currently cheaper to businesses than automating the process which has very high sunk costs. This could (and likely will) change as workers keep demanding higher wages for unskilled labour and/or the costs of automation decrease (the former also leading to outsourcing of these jobs abroad). For the most part, businesses in a capitalist society prioritise maximising profits over everything else, and the quality of life of their workers are much less heavily weighted in their decision of whether or not to automate.

    I guess I just don't understand what he's getting at here. What's the less f*cked up situation for society? Everybody sitting on their arses while the robots create everything we could ever need? That's not how it works. All that automation leads to is less available jobs in these replaceable fields and more available jobs in research and development in newer and more efficient technology and the maintenance of these machines. Less qualified workers are less needed and become unemployed while more highly qualified workers in these fields are more desirable. Surely this goes against what this person's ideal society is, where becoming qualified to work is a necessity and potentially forgoing that 'reward' which was initially used as your incentive to work just in order to outcompete those in the same position as you when it comes to exams for example.

    I don't know what a life where automation is a more cost effective method of output than unskilled labour but I can't imagine it will give people more time to 'live their lives'. I can just imagine it will drastically widen the disparity in income and therefore wealth. It seems that this person is imagining some kind of utopia, where nobody has to work and the concepts of money, wealth and trade do not exist and that everybody has everything they could possibly need to be happy (that can possibly be made) created for them by machines. Nobody has to work, everybody is happy. Obviously for this to be possible, you must assume that every good and service can be produced by these robots and these robots are entirely self sufficient. The thing is is that what makes people happy differs between people. I believe if you are simply given everything, whether you work or not, you will eventually see your life as meaningless. If your life is only reward and no work you start to take things for granted and stop enjoying the reward as much. You start to question the reason for your existence, I mean your life is just as good or bad as everybody else's regardless of what life decisions you make. I just feel like there is something about working and earning something from that work that keeps us grounded and mentally stable.

    There are some other things in the post that I have issues with, like the line 'we should have the right to do something we like most of the time'. Nobody is forcing you to work. You can drop everything right now, stop whatever stage in that go to school, college and work routine and never have to work a day in your life. You won't be successful, and without aid from the government or a lot of saved up wealth you're probably not likely to live long, but there are no laws affecting your right to do that. You have the right to work and the right not to work, you aren't a slave.

    Wow okay that was weird I didn't expect to write such a long reply to this. I just think that this person seems lazy and is fantasizing over a world that if he thought about it either doesn't make sense or he wouldn't want to live in. Considering their lack of punctuation, I doubt they put much thought in to the post and instead this is the verbal diarrhoea that was formed after pondering how cool it would be to play xbox all day everyday for the rest of their life. Because that's 'living their life'.
     
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    I have two responses to this.

    1: We need to keep working so that we can continue to make future life easier. What, do you want to just call it quits and have today's technology forever and never have anything cooler? Have fun never going to space or using a hologram-phone.

    2: It's so good that we've identified society's one problem. Now that we've identified the only problem, we can work on fixing it! Wait... work on fixing... work on... work... aww DAM---
     
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