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Overrated Pokemons

Discussion in 'Festival Plaza' started by Wiso Altred, Jan 12, 2015.

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  1. Wiso Altred

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    Some Pokémon were good but now are just bad like the "troll" Pokémon which are lv 1 Pokémon who can beat lv 100's but now they got dommed with leftovers and the sleeping and espically since sableye is now Overused(ot the tier) and the OU legendaries in one point which Pokémon do u think is overated and why?
     
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  2. YouHoney

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    Greninja. Second only to Talonflame in terms of being overrated and horrible.

    Its really not that good. One Mach punch and that thing is all it takes.

    "But YouHoney, Protean can change it to pure Psychic of Water."

    Thus giving A WHOLE lot of weakness's.

    I would Praise Greninja IF its attack stat would be better. But no.
     
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  3. Almandine-G

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    Blaziken. Boy, do I dislike Blaziken! I'm so tired of seeing or hearing about the thing.

    And it's been put into Ubers. For Pete's sake, it doesn't merit that. It can be pretty easily countered, but no: everybody sees it as some kind of God.

    Blaziken is by far my most overrated Pokémon. Sure, you get that speed boost, but if you're using bulky Pokémon in your team, it could withstand a hit before launching a return strike (like Lapras) against Blaziken.
     
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    It took me a few minutes to decipher your post, but I think I understand it enough to reply now.

    I'd have to say Metagross is largely overrated. I use him myself, but I talk to people who seem to think Metagross is some sort of godly Pokémon that is completely unbeatable. That's dumb. I've OHKO'd Metagross many times with an earthquake from a Pokémon of my own that's just slightly faster than Metagross. I guess that's what kind of makes him vulnerable. Metagross just can't move fast enough to KO an opponent before they are defeated by a powerful super effective move.
     
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  5. Halcyon Storm

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    Okay first of all, Charizard. I don't even know why so many people love it so much, it's by far the worst choice out of the three Kanto starters. It has a weakness against the first two Gyms, as opposed to Bulbasaur and Squirtle. But hey, it's a lizard with a flaming tail, I get it. But Charizard's design isn't as amazing as everyone claims it to be, in my opinion. It's a flying lizard that breathes fire, okay that's pretty cool. But Blastoise is a huge turtle with actual cannons on his back, tell me that isn't badass! But still, I didn't really mind it all that much. That is, until Mega Evolutions were introduced, and for some godforsaken reason, Charizard deserved two Mega forms instead of one, like everybody else (Mewtwo can pass this time, it's the most iconic legendary Pokémon, fine). Why does Charizard get twice the amount of Mega Evolutions? Couldn't they just have gone with either of them? I really don't understand why he got a second Mega Evolution, and it really pisses me off.

    Also, Blaziken. Again, it's the Fire type starter that gets massively overhyped for reasons that are beyond my comprehension. It got its Mega Evolution released early, but whatever, it was with a reason. There's really nothing else to it, he isn't all that much more as the other starters. But still it gets so much more hype as the others, for what reason? I don't know, it doesn't stand out all that much to me, but maybe that's just my perspective.

    And then Talonflame. WHAT IS IT WITH FIRE TYPES AND GETTING OVERHYPED TO DEATH¿?¿? Yeah it's a Fire type bird, we get the point. But that doesn't mean that it should instantly be praised into the heavens and far beyond. I won't even try to explain this one, it should be obvious by now. But man I can't wait until it receives a Mega Evolution :|

    YOU KNOW WHO ELSE SUCKS? PIKACHU-
     
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    I'm going to have to go with Greninja. The little frog gives me the creeps just as bad, if not worse, than Mr. Mime and Jynx. And yet, he is somehow so popular that people were happy to see him in Smash Bros (also, he is in Smash Bros).

    I think the only time I ever think about Greninja is for Pokédex completion and the Crazy Orders challenge (as well as the trophies) in Smash. I'm disgusted that he was my first choice for starter: thank the goddess I thought Fennekin was too cute to pass up.
     
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    Aggron. I know, I am using one in my OU team, and used it once in Emerald. While it is good defensive wise...it isn't the fastest thing in the world....Arceus help me, if there was ever a Ground type specialist in Hoenn (Maxie yes no maybe IDK) Aggron would be one of the first to fall.

    On the other hand, Charizard (as Astral had ever so kindly mentioned), and to me, all other FIre Starters. Maybe it is just me though.
     
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  8. Pitmore

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    Ah, I'd say latias, this Pokémon is good with Cm+Stored power, but really doesn't like dark types, overall, it works, but its too much of a gimmick to be considered overused
     
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    Basically any mon that's super-fast for starters. Dealing and taking damage is the main key to battling, but no, if it can't ATTACK FIRST, regardless of how bulky it is, it's useless.

    Also, Greninja! Ugly *** piece of **** who's incredibly frail, and often times predictable. With the right mindset, you can easily use a mon that can survive an attack of his, and basically kill him in one hit. Why Nintendo/Hal thought it was a good idea to add THIS UGLY THING in Smash Brothers is insulting.
     
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    Pretty much any of Smogon's hyper-offensive mons I would consider overrated. With that said, I agree with most of the mons that have already been posted here, and I would like to add a few more.

    Lucario: Is it the design? Is it because it was once in Smash? It has to be something outside of battling, because it's not that good competitively. It's just another glass cannon.

    Scizor: Just as predictable as Talonflame (and its Mega looks like a can opener). Swords Dance + Bullet Punch every single time. Yaaaaaawwwwnnn!

    Breloom: I actually like Breloom. My problem with it is how people only recognize ONE moveset for it. Seriously, has anyone ever tried Technician + Force Palm? It's really good! No, if you don't use the same old Toxic Heal + Spore, then you aren't using Breloom correctly. Get that uncreative ish out of my face!

    Garchomp: I just don't understand its appeal. It's yet another poorly designed Dragon type. So edgey; much spikes.

    Out of all of these Pokémon that I've listed, I can't help but think how both Cofagrigus and Dusclops completely wall them, and shut down their hyper-offensive "strategy." More like "muh button."
     
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  11. shinygiratinaz

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    Wow, tons of people here with some intense pent up agression. xD

    For me, I see how charizard is overrated, especially with megazard x. I personally run a charizard y, and actually like it. One turn solarbeam is great, and it's got some nice versatility in moveset with tradeoffs like ancient power and dragon pulse aside from the usual fire blast focus blast trashyness. I really don't like megazard x though. Everyone just dragon dances and then earthquake, dragon claw, blah blah bored. I mean, it works, but everyone does the same darn thing with it.:/

    Greninja and Talonflame are also overrated, but that's partially because they are quite broken unless you actually run counters for them, which is nearly a must at this point. I don't dislike them much myself, they can be fun to use and I like their designs surprisingly enough. I just think they're overrated when you can have so much more tactical Pokémon like a jellicent or something. That's just my preferred playstyle though.
     
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  12. Spammernoob

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    Ya know what's overrated? Nothing, at this point. Realistically, the Gen 6 meta's evolved a crap-ton. If you remember the early days of XY OU, with the Tyrantrum and Avalugg, no one really knew what Pokémon were good or bad. However, we've come to a point where we've figured out each Pokémon's niches. Thus, there aren't really any Pokémon that are "overrated." If you take a look at viability rankings, the Pokémon at the top are usually the ones who perform the best in the metagame.

    However, if you compare usage stats, one Pokémon that's used a lot more low-ladder than higher up is Rotom-W. So... yeah.

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    Pretty sure no one uses Poison Heal Breloom anymore... that's kinda 4th Gen. Standard is Bullet Seed/Spore/Mach Punch/rock Tomb, though Force Palm is actually an interesting choice.

    Also, Scizor's really predictable, but not in the way you said. Usually, Scizor (or M-Scizor) acts like a team's glue. It can be a solid defensive pivot with Defog and Roost. Normal Scizor can also run a pretty insane Choice Band set. Not everything's SD/BP.

    Garchomps' good because it's in a decent speed tier, has pretty great bulk, and good attacking stats/movepool. Although some Scarf-chomps are running around, most are Sash/Lum Berry with Stealth Rocks. It's good maily due to its ability to pressure common Defoggers like the Lati twins, as well as to beat some of the most common leads. (barring Mamoswine)

    Also, not at all walled by Dusclops/Cofagrigus. Scizor gets Knock Off, Garchomp can Swords Dance and eat its Lum Berry, Lucario gets Crunch, etc. Though Lucario's absolute trash without his M-Evo.

    @[member="YouHoney"] lol Have fun vs. a Shadow Sneak/Extrasensory Greninja. :3
    JK, those don't exist anymore.

    @[member="Almiraj"] There are plenty of 'mons that are good and bulky. M-Metagross, M-Altaria, Heatran, Rotom-W, Landorus-T to name a few. I don't understand why you hate fast 'mons, or where you got the impression that Smogon just loves fast sweepers. I mean, Mega-Mawile and Aegislash are great examples of slower, bulky Pokémon who were insanely powerful in OU.

    And why the heeck DON'T you want a water-ninja-frog in Sm4sh? Please no Ridley. >_<
     
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  13. Almiraj

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    I meant bulky in design, as in big/fat/thick arms and legs/that sort of thing. None of the monsters you mentioned are that. The only OU ones I can think of off the top of my head are Venusaur and Gengar (Normal). (I know Gengar Normal is a sweeper, but he's still apparently bulky)

    Also, I think Greninja is disgusting looking. And yes, I'd rather have Ridley, even if he is an unlikely character.
     
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    Mega Mawile. It can sweep almost everything in one SD sure, but I think it has a really hard time doing it thanks to burns (Heal Bell is an answer, but I find it really easy to find out that user and take it out quickly). I don't ever see Sucker Punch OHKO, I've seen Excadrill take a Sucker Punch and barely live, same with Nidoking. Imo Mega Mawile is only threatening under sub or if it got stats from baton pass. I just don't find it as great of a sweeper.
     
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    As a lot of the above posts already mentioned, I would definitely agree that Charizard, Greninja, Lucario, and Blaziken are pretty overrated in terms of popularity. I actually really like Greninja and its design (and the entire Froakie family in general), myself, but I was pretty surprised at how beloved it became, even over the immensely-popular-at-the-time Fennekin; doubly so by being included in Smash Bros. as a playable character. Mewtwo is also up there, in my opinion; along with Charizard and how both of them have different Mega Evolutions depending on the game version, it seemed like they were the true posterboys for X and Y by being more memorable than Xerneas and Yveltal. I can't speak for the meta/competitive game since I'm only a casual Pokémon player, though, so these are just thoughts. Lucario and the famous Technician + Bullet Punch Scizor were really common online back in Gen. 4 from the few times when I did play over wi-fi, though.
     
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    Overrated, you say? Well, my vote goes to Thundurus. In fact, I'm not sure if it's as popular as it used to be. I find thundurus pretty easy to battle in competitive matches, and many people rave about it. Although it's ability is great, its' stats are decent and it doesn't really appeal to me when I make teams (I like him occasionally, but he's definitely not worth the praise that he is given by others).
     
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    I just think that some OU Pokémon should be in BL instead of OU, it is not the big difference. But with the actual competitive game, some test should be activated, like Normal Landorus case.
     
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    BL is Borderline, the banlist for UU.
    OU is overused. The main difference is that if a 'mon has a certain amount of usage, it'll rise. For instance, Crawdaunt was suspected in UU and banned, but since no one uses it in OU, it's only BL.

    Also, congrats on 1234 posts. :3
    EDIT: NOOOO You ruined it. ;-;
     
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    Thanks, I will edit. I should avoid posting while I a explaining XD. But, I still think that Landorus should be BL, because it is still more than UU, but actually is not too good in OU.
     
  20. Martsian

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    Well guys this only think i have to say that is overrated is in OU tier, Mamoswine! Pretty good, i agree but i think it should be BL and not ou!
    That's my opinion!
     
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