Pokegenning Allowed in VGC?

The problem with this is that there's no way of stopping people from doing this stuff.

Yes, a person could show up with genned Pokémon to an official tournament-- but as long as it doesn't have stats it shouldn't, or moves it shouldn't, it doesn't matter. Abusing the game to get perfect Pokémon has always been a thing-- if we're shouting out Ray Rizzo, where's the mention of VGC 2014's World Champion Se Jun Park and his Follow Me Magmar for worlds in VGC'13? http://imgur.com/a/vDjV8#0 for more information.

It shouldn't be done. But it will be done.

Just to be clear, as far as hack checks for OR/AS go-- if it's legal for the Battle Spot Doubles online ladder, it's legal for tournaments. A tourney hack check (at least for all the events I've attended) is literally an official asks for your cartridge, plugs it into their 3DS, and checks if they can use it on the Battle Spot ladder.

It's a point of honor for me to not use hacked Pokémon, but especially with the number of legendaries we have to dance around with, I'm certain at least one of the 5IV HB legends in my boxes isn't legitimate. That's the way things are.

 

I don't have a problem with legal hacking. I've done it the past two VGC Regional events, and it went unnoticed. Plan on doing so again next Sunday at the Portland VGC. As long as they work online, they're legal enough. I even altered the memories of my Mons just to be on the safe side. Genning is "cheap", but it's also a lot less time consuming. Again, legal hacking is fine. Illegal hacking (going over a certain IV or EV, illegal item, illegal move etc.) obviously isn't okay.

 

Dayum we got that Portland Regionals hype? Anyone else showing up for that around here that you know of?

 

I actually think that Pokegenning in competitive tournaments is not a bad thing. As long as everything on the Pokémon is attainable in-game (such as stats, moves, abilities, etc) legally, I don't see why it's such a big deal. Pokémon should be based more on the time you spent testing a team and your skill level with said team rather than on how much time you spent breeding and training. That's my opinion on it, though.

I also used 3 Pokegenned Pokémon at Nattionals in 2013.

 

I don't find pokegenning in itself to be a bad thing. As someone who for the longest time made all of his in-game teams from scratch, I can tell that it take AGES. I only use pokegenning because it is so much less time-consuming than having to legitimately breed them. I placed 5 in the 2013 Nationals using an entirely Pokegenned team, albeit that none of them were in unobtainable balls, had illegal moves, stats, etc., but the point is that I definitely don't have a problem with creating Pokémon this way. I only have a problem with people who abuse this by making Pokémon with illegal moves and such, but it's worth mentioning that isn't the fault of pokeggening technology, but rather the fault of the person's immoral decision to cheat.

In short, use pokegen if you want, but please don't use it to cheat.

 

I agree that pokegenning is fine as long as the created Pokémon is legal. One reason I have for that is if you want to use a legendary on your team. You can't just breed for a better one, and the chances of getting 6 IVs in the stats you want and the nature you want on a legendary before ORAS were just impossibly daunting. Why spend possibly months resetting when you can just hit a few buttons? Even in ORAS, it'll still be a lot of resets before you get exactly what you want, so I just gen those.

When it comes to Pokémon you can just breed, I say if you have the tools to do so just go ahead and breed a fair one. Sure it's faster to pokegenn and I'll admit that I've modified one or two things off a Pokémon I bred that was almost perfect, but the satisfaction of knowing that the Pokémon you are using was one you worked for and made yourself is pretty rewarding in my opinion.

 

Completely forgot to mention the Legendary Pokémon. This is probably the biggest reason why I gen at all.

 

I find it interesting that illegitimate Pokémon are allowed in VGC.

I'll be the first to say that I completely understand in order to save time to have these Pokémon as long as they are legal, but in my personal opinion allowing it seems like they are slightly advertising products that do not come from Nintendo. I suppose it isn't too bad as long as it's legal... but in a sense I understand where you are coming from too as I do obtain my Pokémon legitimately for competitive play.

But... oh well. *Shrug.*