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Pokémon Anime Pokemon Themes- Ash's Pokemon (with links)

Discussion in 'Pokémon General' started by oghond, Feb 24, 2018.

  1. oghond

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    Would you agree with that?
     
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    By the way, any thoughts on the Kanto themes (besides Pikachu)?
     
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    Yes, I agree. It's just too funny!
    Bulbasaur: This one is good in theory, but once you look a bit deeper, you find it doesn't work as well as you would think. Most of the lines outside of the refrain don't really work at all with Bulbasaur, even though the refrain fits incredibly well. He WILL always get back up again if you knock him down, but since when is one of his main concerns getting his heart broken? After Ash proved himself to Bulbasaur in its debut episode, it has been one of his most loyal, trusting Pokémon. And "Before I put another notch in my lipstick case, You better make sure you put me in my place" is the opposite of anything Bulbasaur would say.
    Squirtle: It fits alright. Could be better if it showed Squirtle's loyal and kind side, as opposed to just the mischievous one, but as that is a major factor, it works better than Bulbasaur's.
    Charizard: Fits really well. Can't see much wrong with it.
    Butterfree: Already gave my opinions on the new one you chose for this, but just as a refresher, I really like it and think it fits beautifully.
    Pidgeot: Another one that works, and I can't think of a better alternative. It fits well since Pidgeot wasn't ever given a real personality, and the fact that it is helpful and got released are its only major traits. I wish we could find something like this but slightly less harsh on Ash, then it would be perfect, but it is pretty good as is.

    Also, couldn't help but notice that you missed a few. Namely, Kingler, Muk, Tauros (there are thirty, but you only need one), Lapras, and Primeape. Primeape and Tauros are somewhat understandable since they have very little screen time, but if you have a chance, these Pokémon need their songs eventually.
     
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    Alright, then. You made some good points with Bulbasaur that I hadn’t really considered until now, so “Hit Me With Your Best Shot” is officially out. Though, ironically, I eventually realized the same problems with Heracross getting a song about toying with someone’s emotions and effectively friendzoning them...

    As for the other Kanto themes, they’re all staying. Muk and Lapras actually did have themes- “Toxic” and “Already Gone,” respectively- but as one was chosen specifically for pun factor and the other barely fit at all, they were cut and I narrowed it down to just the main 6 Pokémon.

    Now... to Johto. My personal opinions on each, excluding Heracross:

    Bayleef: I’ve got a better song in mind. “Satisfied,” anyone? (Or “Helpless”?)

    Quilava: Dear good god... this was hard...

    Totodile: MOST FITTING SONG IN JOHTO.

    Noctowl: It’s LITERALLY a golden owl. Though there could be a better song out there.

    Donphan: ...Scrap it and give it to Corphish. “Lose Yourself” doesn’t fit at all.

    Do you agree with any of these thoughts?
     
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    You know... that’s got me thinking. This was originally Goodra’s theme, but I read the lyrics, and I feel like it fits Pidgeot better:
     
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    This does fit Pidgeot better indeed.
    I agree with everything you said here except Bayleef. While I agree that Satisfied and Helpless both work better than Blank Space, Helpless states that the love is reciprocated, and Satisfied states that Bayleef would willingly back down for someone else who loves Ash. Both of these are false. This is the only opinion of yours I disagree with. Then again, keep in mind that this is your list, not mine, and you can choose whatever you think fits best.
     
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    Okay, then. Meaning:

    "Grenade" is out, and "Against All Odds" is in.
    Meanwhile "Against All Odds" is out for Goodra, to be replaced by... this.

    "Lose Yourself" is also out, but I have no clue what the heck to replace it with.

    These are staying: "You Will Be Found," "Can't Stop the Feeling," and "Gold."

    Also, I'm going with "Helpless."
     
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    Do you think Goodra’s new theme fits?
     
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    Also, any thoughts regarding Donphan? I still can’t find a theme for him, since he’s just as hard as Heracross or Quilava were...
     
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    Yes, I think it works well.
    I honestly don't know either. I don't know Donphan's character well enough to accurately judge.
     
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    Here is some information on Donphan’s personality: https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ash's_Donphan

    By the way, Corphish’s theme has been changed from “My Shot” to this:
     
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    That fits.

    As for Donphan, based on the article, its loyalty and playful nature are its key points. I don't really know of a good song for both, but I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to find one.
     
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    Alright, then.
     
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    And now, for what I consider to be the most fitting themes in each region:

    Kanto: Charizard- "Indestructible"
    Johto: Totodile- "Can't Stop the Feeling"
    Hoenn: Sceptile- "Wait For It"
    Sinnoh: Torterra- "Viva La Vida"/Infernape- "Believer"
    Unova: Scraggy- "Headstrong"
    Kalos: Greninja- "The Weekend Whip"
    Alola: Lycanroc- "Snoopy"
     
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    With that said:

    To FireSpartan: what do you think are the top 10 most fitting themes?

    My number #1? "Snoopy."
     
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    Maybe you should make another summary post with all the updates. I need to think about it a bit so I will let you know next time I log on.
     
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    OK.
     
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    Full updated list of themes:

    Kanto:
    Pikachu: "500 Miles” by the Proclaimers ()
    Bulbasaur: New theme TBD
    Squirtle: “Bad Reputation” by Joan Jett and the Blackhearts ()
    Butterfree: “Hey Jude” by the Beatles ()
    Charizard: “Indestructible” by Disturbed ()
    Pidgeot: “Against All Odds (Take a Look At Me Now)” by Phil Collins ()

    Orange Islands:
    Snorlax: “The Lazy Song” by Bruno Mars (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G2o9Yd0uydM&index=7&list=PLwmnp90fWZOAzrlnKpDpVe9ODK7JpZ2EZ)
     
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    Johto:
    Heracross: “Oops! I Did It Again” by Britney Spears
    Bayleef: “Helpless” from Hamilton Quilava: “You Will Be Found” From Dear Evan Hansen
    Totodile: “Can’t Stop the Feeling!” by Justin Timberlake
    Noctowl: “Gold” by Owl City
    Donphan: New theme TBD

    Hoenn:
    Swellow: “The Climb” by Miley Cyrus
    Sceptile: “Wait For It” from Hamilton
    Corphish: “What Are You Waiting For” by Disturbed
    Torkoal: “I Cry” by Flo Rida
    Glalie: New theme TBD

    Sinnoh:
    Staraptor: “The Pretender” by the Foo Fighters
    Torterra: “Viva La Vida” by Coldplay
    Infernape: “Believer” by Imagine Dragons
    Buizel: “Bastille Day” by Rush
    Gliscor: “Proud of Your Boy” from Aladdin
    Gible: “It’s the End of the World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)” by REM

    Unova:
    Unfezant: “Touch the Sky” from Brave
    Oshawott (I chose a different FORUM song than “I’m Calm”- let’s see if it fits): “Comedy Tonight” from AFTHOTWTTF
    Pignite: “The Pass” by Rush
    Snivy: “Fighter” by Christina Aguilera
    Scraggy: “Headstrong” by Trapt
    Leavanny: “I’m Coming Out” by Diana Ross (solely for the sake of humor)
    Boldore: “Pompeii” by Bastille
    Krookodile: “We Will Rock You” by Queen
     
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    As for Oshawott, I personally prefer the other one, but this fits too. Not enough for top ten though. Here's my top ten.

    10. Sceptile, 'Wait for It"
    9. Scraggy, 'Headstrong'
    8. Gliscor, 'Proud of Your Boy'
    7. Rowlet, 'Fireflies'
    6. Butterfree, 'Hey Jude'
    5. Pikachu, '500 Miles'
    4. Charizard, 'Indestructible'
    3. Torterra, 'Viva la Vida'
    2. Snorlax, 'The Lazy Song'
    1. Lycanroc, 'Snoopy'

    I don't understand Buizel's at all. Greninja, Pidgeot, Totodile, and Corphish all get high ranking honorable mentions. Other than that, they all fit well, or at least decently for a couple of them. Gible, Snivy, Pignite, Staraptor, Hawlucha, Quilava, and more were all really good, but couldn't make the cut. Nice job!
     

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