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Primal Rayquaza Hopes

Discussion in 'Pokémon General' started by shinygiratinaz, Sep 15, 2014.

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  1. shinygiratinaz

    shinygiratinaz Boats Against the Current

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    The tension is real, people. The latest footage actually showed Rayquaza, but no primal form was revealed. I'm sure they are taunting us with that, and it is working on me. :/ So, I made this thread to talk all about Primal Rayquaza! What ability do you think he will have? When do you think they'll finally reveal the awesome things that they better have planned for him? Do you think that rayquaza will have a big part in OR/AS's story?

    I hope he has a part in OR/AS and they don't just treat him like a side legendary. He's too awesome to be a side legendary. :(
     
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    Well, I think there is probably going to be a primal reversion for Rayquaza.
    With the new formes for Groudon and Kyogre, Rayquaza's gotta have one too so it can keep those two under control.
    Maybe its primal ability will be "Any Primal Groudon or Primal Kyogre on the battlefield faint instantly." I don't know.
     
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    I'm really hoping that they will make a Primal Rayquaza, I honestly don't see why they wouldn't! It would be rather strange to give both Groudon and Kyogre awesome Primal forms and leave out Rayquaza, who is often seen as the leader of the trio. Rayquaza is powerful as it is, and a Primal form (while not necessarily 'needed') would give it a huge boost.

    Appearance-wise, it probably wouldn't change too much physically- both Primal Groudon and Kyogre are nearly identical in terms of their body shape. It would probably get Delta-inspired symbols (triangles and whatnot) since Delta Emerald was trademarked by the Pokémon Company. I could see it maybe having some see-through glowing spots similar to Primal Kyogre, possibly green in color as well. Either way, it would probably look awesome, haha.

    As for its ability, it would be interesting if it got an upgraded Air Lock that reversed the effects of weather and nullified any bad weather conditions relating to itself. For example, Sun would make fire moves weaker, Rain would make water weaker, Hail would heal all types and hurt ice/lower ice-types' accuracy, and Sandstorm would hurt rock/steel/ground and heal all other types. I think that could be interesting, and would match with Primal Groudon/Kyogre's new abilities.

    I do hope Rayquaza does have some importance to the ORAS plot either way, though. It's way too awesome of a Pokémon to leave as a post-game encounter, it had a pretty big part in Emerald. One thing I'm not looking forward to though is getting through Sky Pillar. In 3D. With updated puzzles. Dear god why
     
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    I think that they will put Primal Rayquaza with some ability that nullifies the abilities of Primal Kyogre and Groudon. Seriously that trailer made me think they would give something to Rayquaza seeing as that was the picture at the start of the trailer on Serebii and they bothered to show him. It felt like a tease.

    Oh god, I haven't thought of that until now.
     
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    I'm wondering if Rayquaza's ability will just get rid of Kyogre and Groudon's weather abilities completely. Example: A battle between a Kyogre an Rayquaza. Kyogre is sent out first. Rayquaza'a ability would stop the heavy rain completely and nullify its effects for Kyogre as long as Raquaza is in the battle. Maybe the ability would also boost Rayquaza too. Though, like it's been said already, Rayquaza doesn't really need boosts (though it would be awesome).
     
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    On Serebii it said that Rayquaza holds a secret to Mega Evolution so maybe it'll get a Mega?
     
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    To be honest, I hope it doesn't. A Primal Reversion would fit Rayquaza way better than a Mega would, as that would match up with Groudon/Kyogre's Primals. A Mega for one and Primals for the other two just seems out of place. Plus, just because it's tied to Mega Evolution doesn't necessarily mean it has a Mega Evolution itself. It could just mean that either its normal powers or its potential Primal Reversion have helped people/Pokémon figure out the secrets of Mega Evolution or something like that.
     
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    Plus we've already gotten a ton of megas so we really don't need another one least of all of one that's already powerful-ish to begin with. It would make more sense to give Rayquaza a primal to match its fellow trio pals. As far what ability a possible primal Rayquaza might have maybe it could be an ability similar to Zygarde's Aura Break that renders the ability of its fellow trio members useless to them.
     
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    This is what I see most people speculating, but I honestly hope it is something different. It would be kinda disappointing if Rayquaza's ability only affected 2 other Pokémon. I think a reverse weather ability would be pretty cool, but I don't know how it would work.
     
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    It would make sense though, but maybe we should look at Rayquaza's ability Air Lock an extra time, it not only nulls out Groundon and Kyogre's weather ability it also nulls all other weather based abilities. Maybe primal Rayquaza's ability could be a powered up version of it's current ability. Instead of nulling out weather it could reverse the effects and make a total weather mess.

    Rain cut water moves effectiveness with 50%, thunder won't get 100% hit chance.
    Sun cut fire moves effectiveness with 50% and ignore thunder's higher chance to miss.
    Hail now gives the use Blizzard a penalty accuracy instead of 100% chance to hit.

    And so on, it seems a little OP though.
     
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    Of course it would be OP, but it wouldn't send him to Ubers, except as a nice stopper for his fellow gen of legendaries, and even then he is still DESTROYED when he goes againt the king of the sea.
     
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    Adding onto this, the possibility that hail hurts Ice types and nothing else, sandstorms hurt Rock, Steel, and Ground types and doesn't do anything to others.
    It's definitely OP, but from what we've seen of primal reversions so far, I think it would fit Rayquaza really well.
     
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    That is very OP, but honestly the others primal abilities are incredibly OP also. Something that large would really give it a leg up over the Pokémon it is supposed to be stronger than.

    I wonder what they mean by Rayquaza being a key to Mega Evolutions though?
     
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    On the one hand, it makes sense for Rayquaza's PR ability to just be an upgraded Air Lock; Rayquaza's job is restoring the balance that Groudon and Kyogre disturb. On the other hand, the whole inverse-weather idea - while beyond my suspension of disbelief - makes a lot of sense, too; while regular Rayquaza can only really glare at its siblings and send them to their rooms for a time-out, Primal Rayquaza grinds them into the dirt with their own powers and sends them back into the depths of the earth/ocean where they belong.

    ...And to add something to the discussion, with how Groudon and Kyogre's new weather effects nullify each others abilities to some extent, I could see Rayquaza's new ability shielding it from Groudon and Kyogre in a similar matter. Maybe Air Lock 2.0 does stuff with/to the oxygen around Rayquaza, causing fire to fizzle out and water to be split into hydrogen and oxygen again? xD
     
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    True, Groudon and Kyogre's new abilities are incredibly OP and in order to not get left behind it'll need an ability just as OP or Rayquaza will just end up being that third legendary that's just there and nothing else.

    But what would an ability like that be called? Air Pressure? Turmoil Sky?
     
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    Maybe 'Ozone Reversion' or something like that, if we're talking about the possible ability that reverses weather effects that I talked about in my first post? It sounds plausible as an ability, at least.

    Also, it would be interesting if Primal Rayquaza got its own signature move as well, similar to Precipice Blade and Origin Pulse for the other two Primals. It's hard to speculate that though, as we don't know much about those moves right now, but it would be neat if Primal Rayquaza got one, as well.
     
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    To be honest i feel like when it comes to Rayquaza i feel like it not gonna be primal more like the opposite but not mega as well. Like i feel like to me the leader of the trio Rayquaza has to be more powerful so they'll give it something else like Neoteric Rayquaza o-o seeing primal means old and neoteric means fresh
     
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    I'd also like to see a Primal Rayquaza, it'd be interesting to have all the Hoenn Legendaries have a second form. Maybe all the legendaries will get a Primal form eventually?
     
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    I hope Rayquaza gets a signature move. I feel like it would be a cop-out if they didn't give him one when they gave one to the rest of the trio. They gave Zygarde a signature move, and they didn't do anything with him. They should give Rayquaza one too.
     
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    Yeah is the weather reverse thing we're talking about. Ozone Reversion sounds way better that Air Pressure or Turmoil Sky, plus Rayquaza lives up in the ozone layer so it makes sense that it would be called something like that. Maybe Ozone Shield could be another possibility for a name.

    Getting its own signature move would be nice especially since Groudon and Kyogre got new moves.
     
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