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Rate My Team! OU

Discussion in 'Festival Plaza' started by Nate, Oct 13, 2014.

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  1. Nate

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    I've been using this team for a long time now, its even on the main site! I want to know everyone's opinions on it as it has given me the most success out of any team I've had.

    Latios @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Levitate
    Shiny: Yes
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Draco Meteor
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Psyshock
    - Thunderbolt

    Breloom @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Technician
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Bullet Seed
    - Mach Punch
    - Spore
    - Rock Tomb

    Excadrill @ Assault Vest
    Ability: Mold Breaker
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
    Impish Nature
    - Rapid Spin
    - Earthquake
    - Iron Head
    - Rock Slide

    Charizard @ Charizardite X
    Ability: Blaze
    Shiny: Yes
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Dragon Claw
    - Earthquake
    - Flare Blitz

    Rotom-Wash @ Chesto Berry
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
    Bold Nature
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Volt Switch
    - Rest
    - Hydro Pump

    RedScizor (Scizor) @ Sitrus Berry
    Ability: Technician
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Superpower
    - Bullet Punch
    - Swords Dance
    - Bug Bite
     
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  2. Ronman5

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    I normally run life orb scizor but the drawback to that is u gotta get rid of a move for roost as it helps GREATLY so yeah...
    But in other words it looks like a great team :) Maybe I should post my bug team im having trouble with it as of late
     
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  3. Nate

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    I decided to go Sitrus Berry instead and run a more offensive based set without Roost. I've found it to be quite effective.
     
  4. sohrob101

    sohrob101 Destiny Draw!

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    I feel a bit off with your choice of chesto berry on Rotom-W, I should learn to play OU more often, so I am not sure how often you fall asleep in OU. Also why assault vest over air balloon for Excadrill? I can only assume there isn't many physical threats for Excadril? Otherwise everything here looks very solid.
     
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  5. Northwind's Call

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    Chesto-Rest is a perfectly viable strat on Rotom-W in Singles, as it has no true recovery and Pain Split does not work in every situation. My only point of confusion is why he's running Bold (that's +def right?) and 252spdef, which strikes me as odd.

    Assault Vest works well on Excadrill because it allows it to support with Rapid Spin while also giving it fairly hefty special bulk, allowing it to take on the likes of non-mixed Mega Venusaur and friends. Also, something to do with living uninvested Heatran's Lava Plume and outspeeding to OHKO with Earthquake..? I can't remember quite right.
     
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  6. sohrob101

    sohrob101 Destiny Draw!

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    Sorry didn't notice that it was using rest my bad XD


    I also assumed it had something to do with Heatran.
     
  7. PsychoCookie

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    I personally prefer pain split rotom, i find it has more use than chesto rest, not getting full recovery but lefties and pain split makes up for it in the long run, especially it your opponent isnt particularly prepared for it they will avoid sending out fresh mons and if they do its all the easier to sweep. however your team is fast paced and chesto rest suits that just fine. I would change scizor to a life orb and keep the current moves, if youre going for quick wins.
     
  8. BadPandaPancham

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    While Chesto-Rest is doable in singles, lefties recovery is more beneficial because you do a lot more switching in singles. For Scizor, since it is bulky SD I would hold lefties so it gets overall more HP back then Sitrus and keeps it at a higher range of HP. AV Excadrill really isn't all that great, since a lot of it's weaknesses and checks are physical attacks/attackers. I'd recommend Air Balloon as it then allows Excadrill to carry Stealth Rock. Also, running Excadrill as a utility set works better with Speed invest not bulk invest. Your team is fairly weak to Dragon spam and scarf mons. I would change the 4 HP EVs on Charizard to SpDef. This gives it an odd HP number and allows it to switch in on a field with SR up to 5 times instead of 4, or helps it before it MEvolves survive 3x instead of 2.
    I like the team, it packs a real punch and is a great hyoer offense team. However, it requires a lot of set up and switching. You have no hazards and an unreliable hazard remover in a slow uninvested Excadrill. Since you already have a few setup mons, you can also change SD Scizor to banded Scizor and replace Bug Bite with U-Turn, allowing yourself to have a nice Volt-Turn core. The 4 Speed EVs on Scizor really does nothing as it doesn't outspeed really anything with them, it's better off in Def or SpDef. Also running Bold 252 SpDef is counter productive in terms of bulk as it allows both physical and special attackers to hit you fairly hard with little effort because you try to average out the bulk. It gives you 2 sort if special walls and no physical walls.
    It is a nice team nonetheless, it could just use a little improvement (Scarf Landorus-T, one of the most common pokes, and Thundurus, another very common poke, destroy/cripple your entire team).
     
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  9. Wispy

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    on the scizor, i find it a little overkill to have superpower with swords dance. Maybe run brick break? I just feel its a waste of a turn to build up a swords dance and then bring it back down.
     
  10. BadPandaPancham

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    One thing I have also noticed is that your team is extremely weak to status effects, notably burn and thunder wave. Scarf Pokémon and Ferrothorn notably deal with your team nearly effortlessly, as even though MManectric could switch in, assuming it's still alive, Ferro could leech and protect to gain health and switch into safety as Manectric only has so much coverage and deals only so much damage.
     
  11. Drag0nK1d

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    Status could potentially rek your team, and if you're not careful, you can be swept off your feet by a speed-boosting sweeper/scarfed cleaner in spite of your priority. Does not help that you don't have a stealth rocks setter, but I can see why you don't use one.
     
  12. BadPandaPancham

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    Your team is very weak to hazards and Excadrill with an AV and little offensive/defensive presence since it is spread thin isn't an optimal option, especially since you can't do anything about it to Ghost types. Also, you have no hazard setters. That's a big no-no for hyper offense teams. Hazards allow your team to sweep and break abilities such as Sturdy or Multiscale, as well as getting rid of sashes or putting them into KO range for a certain poke. I recommend putting an Air Balloon on Excadrill, investing in Attack and Speed, and including Stealth Rocks instead of Rock Slide, even though you lose the EdgeQuake coverage you still do better at remaining an offensive threat that has utility.
     
  13. Spammernoob

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    Eh, to be honest, I don't like your choice of Specs Latios. I think a LO variant with Defog would be better, as it would allow you to replace Exca with a SR setter like Garchomp or T-tar or something. You have Latios, so you don't really need Excadrill to handle Rotom-W, and Garchomp deals with things like Ferrothorn better.

    Even though it's sub-optimal, Belly-jet Azumarill wipes your team if rocks are up. You can run a different spread on Rotom-W to help this:
    Rotom-Wash @ Chesto Berry
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 248 HP / 216 Def / 44 Spe
    Bold Nature
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Volt Switch
    - Rest
    - Hydro Pump

    That spread lets you outspeed Jolly Belly-Jet Azu. It's pretty much standard, bar the Rest.
     
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  14. Xarn

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    I will put my cent of sand here...Some people run Rotom W with Bold Nature to give it a "Mixed Wall" strategy, it is a little viable with the correct variants on the team. Personally I think that here will be better the Special Defense and you could try with Bold allowing it to resist some physical attacks, Just try and choose the more useful for you. Good Luck!
     
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