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Discussion in 'LV Fan Region: Meroi' started by Skittle, Dec 9, 2020.

  1. Skittle

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    wow we can post things here and im honestly surprised nobody did this first so im gonna do it wooo anyway HI its time to design some friends to fill our region with!!

    if i said character design was my favorite thing in the world, i would be lying!! going crazy over my fictional husbands is. but character designing is very close!! maybe you like character designing too?? idk whether you like it or not we're gonna make a boatload of essentially ocs because im sure a Pokémon game without characters would be very very boring. drawings?? loose ideas you cant draw?? throw em in dont let ur memes be dreams

    just to kick things off i dont know if you remember but i actually have done a few concept designs for our player characters!! only now have i digitized them and i wanted to share em for you guys. these are still concepts so if u think i suck feel free to give ur thoughts!!
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    the female character, brooke!! i dont think i have to explain what her name means its water cmon we're a lake

    i think brooke is the peppy type and she isnt afraid to get her hands dirty in the name of befriending Pokémon. she can be a bit dense despite her traditionally "geekish" attire


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    our man, trent!! trent is another water themed name, meaning torrent.

    trent seems like a laid back guy!! hes also a carefree person whos a big nerd and reads a lot about the world

    for those of you that remember my initial post of these designs: im still planning to include the gender neutral player character my hand just got tired and i stopped drawing lol

    apart from that we're working with a blank slate!! i have a few ideas i havent put to paper yet so along with those drawings here are a few ideas for more characters i have!! feel free to provide input and changes and PLEASE add your own ideas or doodles!! lets have fun!!

    --im gunning so hard for a champion whos a young angsty teenager. instead of a steven/cynthia/alder adult character who cheers you on our champion's like "okay whatever" and just cant be bothered. but theyre no pushover in battle!!
    --since we have a big city based on chicago, how about a flying type gym leader to reference the windy city?? in their free time they spend hours at local deep dish pizza places and watch baseball (or whatever Pokémon does for sports)
    --steel type gym leader because detroit is a huge automotive city?? thats really all i got so far
    --minnesota is in the region too! it would be super fun to have a water type gym leader roughly where minnesota is because its the land of 10000 lakes!! or maybe ice type because ice fishing is a big thing there
    --for rivals: best of both worlds we can have a friendly rival and a jerky one. not much else to say yet
     
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    I like the designs, but I feel like Trent should have the more geeky attire since he's a nerd, and Brooke should look more rugged to go with her seemingly a bit more rugged personality.

    Also wait. If these are supposed to be the player characters, shouldn't they be more similar to each other? I don't want to say generic, but look at all the previous player characters. They're not really that different. Though the personality thing may be going delving into this too much. In my opinion, I think these should be the friendly rivals, and the gender neutral one you mentioned should be the player character.

    Now as for the jerk rival, I have done already gone on record saying that I don't like them. It's probably just branching off my desire for everyone to be friends, but they've always just rubbed my the wrong way. I would personally prefer someone more Gladion; not so much a jerk, but still kind of cold toward you. But I know that I'm probably in the minority here so if I get outvoted, that's fine.
     
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    @Captain Comet tbh i dont think their personalities are supposed to be that relevant bc one of them becomes the player character who we know just soullessly smiles at everything lol..... but im personally a fan of subverting common tropes in fiction (and the series too?? i personally dont like how the protags seem like a genderbent version of each other, looking at hilda and hilbert here) but i know some ppl arent and thats fine!! but like i said these are just huge concepts that i expect to change with ppls feedback so take everything with the entire saltshaker lmfao

    tho i was thinking on the topic of them being rivals in a sense, i want one of them to be your rival and the other to be like a dawn/lucas?? also i dont think we need a silver but i was thinking something more like gladion/bede too. its a mess in my head rn but thats why this thread exists haha ^^
     
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    Alright so the idea of a girl who loves pyrotechnics being a Fire-type gym leader just came up in Discord. Just putting that out there hopefully before Demo puts out his post about an explosion-obsessed Team Chaos leader because it kind of stemmed from that.
     
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    Really? I was thinking the main two characters looked kind of similar in terms of attire, the shade of blue really pops but it makes them look really similar. I personally prefer the Gen 8 route of not having the other guy be your friendly rival, it gives us more space to work with characters, but I get that it's a tradition in Pokémon.
    I don't even know if we're doing order or chaos anymore, I thought someone vetoed it but I have no clue what's going on anymore with that part. Let's just focus on Gym Leaders, champion, protag and rivals in this thread while the story is sorted out.
     
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    Demo is still going with Order vs Chaos, and I am not on board with it anymore. I have no idea how anyone else feels.

    There also is still the debate of if we want to stick to the monotype gyms or make them more theme-based. I only bring this up here because it probably will effect the gym leader designs. Personally, I like the monotype gyms.
     
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    The protag designs are pretty good, but one thing I'll say is that almost all protagonist designs in the past games have had pretty different color pallets, with the one exception being Brendan and May. Those two have very different hats as a big distinction, but it's still an exception, so you don't necessarily have to follow this trend. Worth mentioning though.
     
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    OKAY so I just brainstormed ideas for gym leaders. Here we go.

    Riley is very childish and naive, but also super nice and just wants to be friends with everyone. They can either be gender neutral or full on trans (not that it really effects that much either way), and would probably be earlier on.

    Pyra (the only name I will be using for this description) is energetic scatterbrained, and slightly crazy. She loves explosions and works with pyrotechnics. I imagine her being mid-late. Like sixth.

    Maverick is very calm and quiet, mainly keeping to himself. But don't let that fool you, he is very strong. He researches weather and may or may not use weather patterns in his battles (how they applies effectively to Flying-types I have no idea). Probably the eighth one to battle, and the gym leader of whatever city is based off Chicago.

    Axel runs a factory, possibly one that makes cars (idk subject to change). He is tough but nice, though he does have a big job at the end of the day and might prioritize that over kindness. Probably fifth or so, and the leader of the Detroit-based city.

    We got a sibling duo here. Cole is the older one. He is gruff, scrappy, and very protective over Jess. Jess, on the other hand, is friendly, but shy, and tries her hardest to keep Cole from getting into fights. He's a rapper and she's a singer.

    Matilda is very kind and welcoming. Her warming presence is a nice deviation from the harsh cold of the area around this town. She's probably earlier on because of this (kinda like Milo), which breakers the trend of Ice-type gyms always being near the end.

    I also think we should have gym leaders for Water (because duh) and Electric (because Thunder Bay), but the character ideas I came up for them I don't really like.
     
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    boop boop just coming back here to say that may and brendan are my favorite duo of player characters (i bought a 60 dollar plushie of may, my love runs DEEP) so thats probably why i gave our friends similar color schemes wwww i know brooke and trent arent similar in terms of looking like genderbends of each other (which ive already said is something i find kinda lame) so giving them matching clothing palettes was the next best thing lol. jordan (the nb player character) will also have a similar palette once i actually work on their ref sheet so heads up

    also in response to above post: i actually really like these!! i hope its okay if i look into different names for some them to better fit their specialties (if they dont already, if u looked into that already my mistake!!), also im 99% sure there was a ddpt character named riley so just to avoid confusion there

    and one more loose idea for the road, maybe our non friendly rival could be working against the player because they secretly work in kudos with the evil team?? im dumb and like anime and i really liked that aspect of alain in the xy series so seeing something similar in a rival would be cool!! it gives them motivation to stomp you too because youre meddling in the teams affairs and they dont like that. but thats all i have so far lol
     
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    Oh yeah go ahead and screw with the names if you want. The only one I came up with that is actually derived from something is Pyra (because pyrotechnics). Riley was the first gender neutral name that came to mind and Maverick is a subtle nod to Top Gun for some reason. The others I literally just came up with and thought "that works". You also could argue that Axel comes from like a wheel axel (axle? idk) but there's probably something better to use.
     
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    Axles are also made from steel, as are axes, so I'd argue Axel works fine. I read somewhere that in Japanese, all the Gym Leader names are references to plants, so if we want to mess with that that's also an option.
     
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    just gonna take a screenshot of my notes and slap the image here instead of copy pasting lol. i liked some of the names and i think they fit so a few of them werent changed!! but as always feel free to give ur own input

    some thoughts on the last two gym leaders: the lachlan name just gave me an idea this water type gym leader has to be smitten with one of the lakes bc maybe theres a cool Pokémon said to live in there (like the loch ness moster) and they just. stare at the lake for hours in hopes they see it lol
     
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    I really like Aurora as her name. Fits nicely. I can't stop picturing the kids calling her "Auntie Aurora". This also means that at some point she needs an Aurorus on her team. Probably not at first but maybe in rematches?

    Maverick was a complete accident there. Seriously I was just making a Top Gun reference. Because planes.

    Enya is nice. Honestly that's all I really have to say about it.

    I really like the name Robin. However, I don't know if referencing Robin Hood really fits their character. Robin Hood is basically a vigilantly thief. This gym leader just wants to be nice.

    Crash and Edna I'm kind of mixed on too. The single word name thing is cool (did not know Tate and Liza had that), but the names indivually aren't that amazing. Plus they both are a bit similar to other names. Crasher Wake already exists, and is also a Fighting-type specialist. Edna is pretty similar to our own Enya (assuming we go with that).

    I like the idea of a female Electric-type gym leader. I mean every generation except II and VIII introduced an Electric-type specialist of some sort, but Elesa is the only girl. Plus I just like the name Audra.

    The idea of a gym leader obsessed with the legend of a certain mysterious Pokémon is really cool. Could go hard in that Loch Ness Monster idea (since Galar didn't do it...). And this might just be the Fire Emblem fan in me, but Cordelia makes me think of Flying-types because of the pegasus knight.
     
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    @Captain Comet yeah some names i really liked and others are just Eh because i didnt wanna spend a long time on concepts lol.... still nice to see that there are some names we all like!! and yeah i was also subconsciously leaning towards a female electric type/male water type situation. which also means our league will be gender balanced-ish, with 4 girls and 4 boys if the fairy leader is excluded for obvious reasons of being neither. honestly the fairy kid is gonna be tough bc i want their name to reference a fairy tale (gamefreak you are dropping the ball hard here) but there are only so many unisex names

    if anyone wants a stab at the names that are iffy have fun im gonna take a break from opening 20 tabs and searching "NAMES THAT MEAN (whatever)"
     
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    (stumbles into thread) Hello i have been lurking and while u guys debated gym leader names i studied the blade and have been theorizing japanese names behind the scenes

    NYWAYS HI I LOVE CHARACTERS so ill throw out some thoughts of my own....!! i like all our gym leaders so far type and personality wise, have no onions on names bc i think other ppl have that under their belt + im just sitting here googling plants so yall dont have to..... i am especially in love with the water one and their obsession with a legend!! maybe u cant battle them at first bc theyre out looking for the pkmn and ur like Seriously so u have to get them back to their gym to battle lol

    otherwise i have not a whole lot to add.... the idea of a rival being with the villains is cool and could lead into a Friendship Is Power moment at the story climax where u convince them to fight for your side to save the region or whatever.... also i fucking stan the protag designs chefs kiss brooke esp an she be playable

    so yeah ive been looking into jp names while all of this has been going on for fun and i have 2! i only did aurora and maverick so far bc they seem to be the ones that wont change the most

    for aurora i have the name touhi atm!! touhi (トウヒ) is the name for the spruce tree in japanese so PLANTS!! the hi at the end comes from one of the readings for 氷 which means ice and thats about it lmfao!! interesting to note that this guy here 灯 can be read as tou OR hi and means light which can tie into the aurora lights thing but im hesitant to say its important to the name as its more for electrical/non natural lights.

    mavericks name atm is nogikuu (ノギクウ) which comes from 野菊 which is aster (this can refer to any aster but my plant of choice was the new england aster as its native to a lot of illinois and does exist around chicago as its decided at this point hes the leader of bootleg pkmn chicago) BECAUSE PLANTS and reads as nogiku. "wheres the extra u then" it comes from kuu, a reading for 空 which means sky since hes the flying leader! so its kinda a combo of the two instead of going full pkmn and googling a plant and then finding words that happen to match up exactly or closely to the 3 charas chosen for the name

    i probably didnt explain it that well so feel free to ask "wtf man" bc same haha
     
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    I COME BACK WITH SOME MORE CHARACTER CONCEPT DESIGNS!! YAY!!

    i only did two, for aurora and maverick (the gym leaders we seem most sold on). im guessing we're gonna work on our leaders in batches of 2-3 at a time and thats fine but THE DESIGNS!! and a little bit of character stuff i'll make up along the way and why i designed them like i did

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    aurora may specialize in ice types, but she has a heart warmer than any fire type!! despite her hometown being covered in snow all the time, she can often be found outside helping the local people and Pokémon and acting like The Ultimate Mom. the younger children in the town call her "auntie aurora" because aurora treats everyone like her own kid. maybe she's adopted a few kids of her own?? that would be cute but she's pretty much symbolically adopted all the kiddos in town. true to her type specialty, she also loves ice cream and can be found eating it: even if its snowing!! during the harshest days of winter, she can also be found on one of the lakes ice fishing

    for her design, she wears festive attire!! she acts like its christmas every day because the spirit of giving to her lasts all year. i see her having platinum blonde/bleach hair, but she's dyed the ends pastel ombre colors, just like the northern lights she's named after. she loves her scarf she knit by hand, and never takes it off, even indoors!! she has short hair just to make it funnier that she loves being outside in freezing temperatures and theres no hair to warm her neck up and to add to her Ultimate Mom aesthetic yknow. aurora is the mom you dont have thats pretty much what im trying to say


    maverick is the strongest: and strangest gym leader in the region by a long shot. he's also quite famous, which can be attributed to his day job of being the charming weatherman on the region's biggest news program. his hours of studying the weather on tv become a central role in his gym battles in the evening, as he takes advantage of wind and weather patterns to gain the upper hand. he only pretends to like his annoying co hosts, as he prefers being by himself and with his Pokémon. he can appear disinterested in things, but battling can fire him up!! his hobbies include shopping for new fun ties to wear to work, and watching baseball (anime confirms baseball exists in the Pokémon world!!) while chowing down on some of his city's specialty pizza

    okay, maverick is WEIRD. his haircut is atrocious and uneven. his tie is flashy. he only tucks in one side of his shirt. but that's what makes him live up to what his name means: unorthodox!! honestly, his style is so BAD its actually stylish in some sick and twisted way. he has a semi formal vibe as he has a job on the side of his gym leader duties, but he still can't shake the need to commit several fashion faux pases, notably the ties he wears which tend to be bright and obnoxious. his long hair and piercings is just me being self indulgent i think long haired men with earrings are The Peak of character design. and on an aside, having been to chicago a few times myself, people watch baseball and eat deep dish pizza. its what they do!! hes definitely the person who wears boots with zippers and only rolls up one pant leg. he just loves terrible fashion

    i actually really like these two!! maybe next i'll work on enya and axel idk
     
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    AHH AURORA LOOKS SO CUTE! Is it weird to say that about a mom? Oh well I don't care. For some reason I imagine her with a slight Scandinavian accent. Not that they really matters Pokémon games don't have voice acting. Maverick being unorthodox and weird is a really fun choice too. Bad fashion FTW.

    I imagine Axel being the big, bulky type. But the might just be my mind thinking "Steel = Strong". Enya I think should have very messy and unkept hair. Because of the slight craziness. But this is your artwork so if you don't want to do these things that's fine.
     
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    I'll be sure to try and get to drawing soon, but for now, how about a few possibilities for main 'friendly' rival, main 'fuck you >:c' rival, and also a gym leader, though mostly due to relevance.

    Name subject to change, but for now it is Cove, the body of water, and Sidon, from Poseidon. Both for obvious enough reasons given the regions water focus.

    Cove Sidon's exact start depends on how things play out, but I imagine it would be interesting if the player didn't necessarily start with them like a lot of rivalries begin. Maybe you just encounter each other early on Route 1, as the first trainer battle, and they happen to have started with whichever starter Pokémon is advantageous towards yours. That's right. They may be the friendly rival, but that doesn't mean you should get to just brush past them with a quick water gun or something.

    You'll encounter them throughout the game, developing a neat friendship and rivalry, ultimately leading to a final battle around the elite four or something of the sort...however that decides to work.

    Cove is a little on the shy, perhaps even cowardly side, but they truly do want to get stronger--and, of course, do so over the course of the game. Perhaps they grew up feeling overall weak throughout their life. And, once they grow and learn to let go of the fear of being weak, they can finally float.

    Mai Monaka, as a name, is actually a combination of two different types of sweets. Maíz con hielo is a sweet and refreshing snack food in the Philippines, made with shaved ice, corn kernels, sugar, and milk, and Monaka is a Japanese sweet made of azuki bean paste sandwiched between two thin crisp wafers made from mochi.

    Mai Monaka is a member of a fairly long line of culinary artists, who has recently also been known for being gym leaders of the Ice and Fairy types, likely leading to some story stuff for Mai once the player reaches that gym, who is very much supposed to be there as the elder child inheriting the gym.

    Due to the unfortunate but completely natural passing of Mai's mother, the previous gym leader, she has been left to inherit it a bit earlier then anticipated. A bit of panic, and here she goes running away to get stronger. A similar sort of problem to Cove, but with less of a "scared and cowardly" approach and more of a "I am hiding my worry of not being strong enough to do this under six layers of anger". And, once she grows and learns to let go of that worry, she can finally float.

    Sou, as a name, is once again from a dessert, Sou being a type of dried flaky Chinese pastry found in a variety of Chinese cuisines.

    With Mai having ran away to lots of worry, someone else had to take over the gym. The eldest heir was gone, so the younger brother, for now, had to take over. Sou is definitely on the cold side, but easily more calm and calculated then his more ironically hot-headed sister.

    While definitely a very skilled battler, and able to hold his own as whichever gym leader placement he holds, Sou always was more of a chef at heart, and is absolutely ready to drop this gym leader stuff the second his sister decides to show up again.

    These are my random ramblings, and I would also like to contact @Skittle in particular for some potential discussion. While, ultimately, this project will have a lot of picking between the different creations of contestants (which starter concept to go with, which gym leaders to use, etc) it still might be worth talking a bit, with you having made some player characters.
     
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    yeah this is kinda what i was thinking too, i'll def try my best with axel because my art style suffers from a severe disease of small and squishy lol. i dont want enya to look too much like flannery tho so maybe she wont look as crazy as she should ww

    @DemonicKraken oooh i can dig some of this rival stuff!! i like the story of the friendly rival and i think its kinda cute that they have vibes of someone you mentor/inspire unlike a lot of other rivals who are either overconfident-ish or "friends yay!!!" (BRENDAN YOU ARE A SERIOUS OFFENDER HERE).

    though the jerky rival and the other gym leader concept feel a little off esp since we've been discussing leaders and i think we have a solid idea of our cast, maybe we can move the leader idea up to a potential e4?? and with some different types bc we have ice and fairy leaders already.

    which gives me an idea related to something i said before!! i really want our jerky rival to be affiliated with the evil team in some way so maybe she runs away in protest of her familys lineage and joins the evil team to take a stand against them/to grow stronger in some way?? i have a Pokémon oc who also hides her insecurities in a similar way (except through a "everythings fine im great!" facade) so im probably biased lol. but w/e i like the actual general concepts of the rivals
     
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    I will say, ideas for gym leaders are going to be thrown around, and some not all are probably going to be used. Especially when 6/8 of them are made at once. Ice and Fairy were chosen specifically due to probably fitting chef the best, though depending on how it's spun stuff like Fire and Fairy miiiight also work.

    That's also a pretty good idea, actually. I wouldn't mind doing that instead of the Mai stuff, in all honesty. Could be them working for one of the evil teams (if we do Order and Chaos, probably Order). Like Bede if that went anywhere.

    Something I didn't include in the original post, but I actually kind of had a vague theme in mind for both rivals. Letting go of 'weights' for the ability to 'float'...like floating on a lake. Cove's own weight was the doubt and fear of being generally weak, meanwile Mai's was...kind of the same, but in a much different flavor. Definitely, DEFINITELY stuff to work with there for working for the evil team.
     
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