1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Welcome to Lake Valor!
    Catch, train, and evolve Pokémon while you explore our community. Make friends, and grow your collection.

    Login or Sign Up

Should Yanmega be a Bug/Dragon type?

Discussion in 'Pokémon General' started by jetwhiskey, Jan 24, 2013.

?

Should Yanmega be a Bug/Dragon type?

  1. Yes

    3 vote(s)
    30.0%
  2. No

    7 vote(s)
    70.0%
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. jetwhiskey

    jetwhiskey Black Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2012
    Posts:
    201
    PokéPoints:
    ₽25.0
    For a long time, I've been a Bug type trainer, relying on their unique strengths, ones that most people just don't see or want to see. I often see bug types being abused and used for nothing more than Dex space. Out of them all, I think Nintendo should be ashamed for giving certain Pokémon types that make them weaker than what they appear to be. In this poll, I'm looking to find out what the rest of you think...

    Should such a powerful sounding Pokémon like Yanmega be reduced to the weakness of Bug/Flying like all the rest, or should it embrace it's true characteristics and be classified as a Bug/Dragon type. You decide. I say it's unfair how Nintendo treated Yanmega, describing it as being powerful, and then giving it horrible stats and a weak typing.

    I think a dragonfly should be as it's name states..a Dragon Fly..a Bug/Dragon.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  2. Achromatic

    Achromatic #TeamMagikarp

    Eevee (KS)
    (Eevee (KS))
    Level 17
    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2012
    Posts:
    12,736
    PokéPoints:
    ₽700.5
    Deep Sea Scale ★★★Deep Sea Tooth ★★★Star Piece ★★★★Rage Candy Bar ★★★Dragon Fang ★★★★
    Bug/Flying all the way.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  3. Oim

    Oim Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2012
    Posts:
    2,426
    PokéPoints:
    ₽60.0
    I can see what you mean but I'm honestly fine with it being bug/flying. It's based off of a bug that has 'dragon' in the name, it doesn't make this thing a dragon. Maybe give it some better stats but I'm fine with bug/flying. Maybe I "don't appreciate bug types" like you do or whatever, but yeah, that's how I see it. I've read your other reasoning on it, it doesn't really change my opinion about it.
     
  4. Slugkid

    Slugkid Slacker Extraordinaire

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2012
    Posts:
    924
    PokéPoints:
    ₽50.0
    I'm fine with it being Bug/Flying and I have used it and other bug-types in the past. I'd like most of my favorite Pokémon to be half dragon, but nintendo didn't make them that way for a reason.

    And I know it's a dragonfly, but you don't see dragonflies IRL acting like dragons at all, right...?

    I think you've taken this too far. From the type changes thread and other previous posts I can gather you can't stand losing a discussion. Sometimes people will not see things your way and that doesn't necessarily make them wrong, you should try to understand that, especially if you are part of such a diverse community as this.
     
  5. jetwhiskey

    jetwhiskey Black Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2012
    Posts:
    201
    PokéPoints:
    ₽25.0
    Most aren't part dragon because they don't relate to dragons, plus they are often already powerful enough as it is...but Yanmega is a bug type, and as we all know most people consider them to be the weakest, and that is somewhat of an insult. Yanmega's descriptions give us these ideas of it being immensely powerful, but when in use it shows none of these strong triats, and for this I think Nintendo made a huge mistake by not only having it's stats low, but also by making it like every other bug, in which it is supposed to be different. It's design tells of it being related to that of the fossilized Pokémon, yet it clearly lacks those traits in it's stats. It also gives most bug users this idea of a powerful dragonesqe bug creature, and what do we find, just another Bug/Flying type like Butterfree. To me, Nintendo has insulted this creature in far too many ways.

    I study bugs and bug Pokémon, and the characteristics of Dragonflies are actually quite relatable to the dragons of mythology, yes they aren't as large as the lizards their names come from, but if you take a closer look you can see why they got their name. Beetles are often my favorites of insects, but dragonflies are more interesting.

    This topic itself hasn't much to do with the type changes thread, but more to deal on a personal level. I'm doing this to see what sort of results I can get from this poll. This topic has been discussed elsewhere, and I'm wanting to see what the majority of this site thinks about such a unique Pokémon.
     
  6. CaptainDiddy

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2012
    Posts:
    48
    PokéPoints:
    ₽25.0
    It's got Speed Boost and 116 Base SpAtt, throw up a protect and he's just fine. Minus that horrid move pool lol Bug/Dragon would be very interesting though, he would quickly become a fan favorite if that was his typing.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  7. jetwhiskey

    jetwhiskey Black Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2012
    Posts:
    201
    PokéPoints:
    ₽25.0
    Speed boost is great, and the SpAtt is ok, but when going up against other foes his defenses and moves don't allow him to do the right amount of damage before falling. Also, I don't see Protect as a good move, it just seems useless because you're only delaying the inevitable. The only moves it's good against are Hyper Beam, Solar Beam, and any other move that requires charging..other than that, when you use protect you'll still probably get hit on the next turn. I agree, his move pool isn't all that great, except for the TMs he can learn, but still, it needs more.
     
  8. CaptainDiddy

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2012
    Posts:
    48
    PokéPoints:
    ₽25.0
    The point of Protect is to give you a free turn of Speed Boost lol that way you're (most likely) going first next turn.
     
  9. jetwhiskey

    jetwhiskey Black Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2012
    Posts:
    201
    PokéPoints:
    ₽25.0
    That being said, still, as we both know, no matter how fast he gets, it still won't matter if he gets hit the next turn by a extremely powerful move. His speed boost allows him to be faster, but his stats make his offense not strong enough to do the job, and then when he gets hit after taking his turn it's a good bet that he either won't survive, or he'll not have enough health to finish the job. Yanmega as he is, is perfect for double and triple battles, but needs to be able to battle alone without fainting after 2-3 hits. His offense and deffense needs to go up, and he needs be stronger against certain types, which is why I think making him part dragon would do him some good.
     
  10. Slugkid

    Slugkid Slacker Extraordinaire

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2012
    Posts:
    924
    PokéPoints:
    ₽50.0
    I don't think Pokédex Entries are reliable to base yourself on, really. Charizard's entry says "It spits fire that is hot enough to melt boulders. It may cause forest fires by blowing flames".
    Pair it up against any bulky-ish rock type, and Charizard's dead.
     
  11. Nate

    pooper scooper
    (Meltan)
    Level 2
    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2012
    Posts:
    2,885
    PokéPoints:
    ₽121.9
    I like him just as Bug/Fly
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  12. Doomhound

    Doomhound
    (Houndour)
    Level 2
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2012
    Posts:
    1,089
    PokéPoints:
    ₽77.7
    I thought he was bug/rock or something with rock type at first, and I agree that bug/flying is unfair. Especially with all the stealth rocking and stuff
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    jetwhiskey likes this.
  13. jetwhiskey

    jetwhiskey Black Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2012
    Posts:
    201
    PokéPoints:
    ₽25.0
    True, but atleast Charizard's attack stat resembles that amount of power, besides it said it could melt boulders, not Rock Pokémon, whereas Yanmega's say:
    "This six-legged Pokémon is easily capable of transporting an adult in flight. The wings on its tail help it stay balanced."
    "The beat of its wings is so powerful that it accidentally dislodges full-grown trees when it takes off in flight."
    Yet it can't learn Fly, and it's attack and defense stat don't resemble anything from it's decriptions. It's supposed to be powerful, yet it can't learn a whole lot of good moves and it's stats are low, meaning somewhere in there someone got something mixed up between what it's suppose to be, and what it ended up as. If it's suppposed to be a long lost Pokémon from the fossilized past, then why can't it fight like it?
     
  14. miloticfan54

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Posts:
    37
    PokéPoints:
    ₽20.0
    Bug/Flying is fine with me... Yanmega looks like it. But Yanmega is in no means weak... It's got monstrous base 116 Sp. Atk and it also packs Speed Boost... It's not true that Bug-Types are weak. See Scizor, Forretress, and Volcarona...
     
  15. jetwhiskey

    jetwhiskey Black Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2012
    Posts:
    201
    PokéPoints:
    ₽25.0
    I didn't mean that I thought the were weak, but others see them as so, and often they can't take too many hits without fainting, which I think isn't right. Yanmega has only two things going for it, it's Sp Atk and Speed Boost, but judging from it's looks and the description the Atk, Sp Atk, Def, and Sp Def should all be much higher than that. I use Yanmega, but I'm displeased that it can't take too many hits...the move Ancient Power tells us that it is a fossil Pokémon, yet it's got far too many weaknesses, and that should be dealt with. To me, the two ost powerful types are Bug and Dragon, so why not put them together.

    Scizor and Forretress are Bug/Steel, and are extremely weak to Fire, and Volcarona is Bug/Fire, removing some of the weaknesses. However, I see far too many Bug/Flying types in the Pokédex, I mean, other than Bug/Poison, that's almost all Bug types have been given to work with really. They are supposed to be strong, yet their stats often say otherwise. I'm a bug Trainer, and I always have a Bug type at the head of my team, but often times when I use them against Pokémon that have weaknesses to Bug attacks they often end up having moves that wipe my bugs out, which means the defenses are far too weak, and certainly bug are tougher than that.
     
  16. Oim

    Oim Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2012
    Posts:
    2,426
    PokéPoints:
    ₽60.0
    It basically boils down to "Pokémon I like is not as strong as I want it to be." Okay, I bet we all feel like that about certain Pokémon.

    If their stats say otherwise, maybe they aren't meant to be as strong as you'd like them to be. I'm just saying. I fully expect a wall of text about how much you like bug types or whatever, but it's basically driving it into the ground. I wish Sandslash was better than it is but it isn't. Oh well.

    "Yeah but Sandslash (blank) while Yanmega.." ect ect ect. We can see it coming at this point, every time someone else has mentioned something that is good about it or bug types, or other Pokémon that aren't as good as a fan of them might expect them to be, it's "yeah but the Pokémon I like..." Okay, we get it, you like bug types and they are weaker than you wish they were. Poke-problems..everybody's got 'em.

    Not responding to this thread anymore.
     
    Ryan likes this.
  17. Ryan

    Ryan lasagna bad

    pointy face
    (Nidoran♀)
    Level 1
    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2012
    Posts:
    3,325
    PokéPoints:
    ₽3,281.4
    Charizardite X ★★★★
    Fixed. [:
     
  18. Spire

    Spire Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2012
    Posts:
    303
    PokéPoints:
    ₽35.0
    This isn't the best argument I have ever seen.

    Yanmega is one of the most powerful bug types out there. But the fact is, Yanmega completely matches Bug and Flying. Bug and Dragon does make some sense, but Bug and Flying makes more sense. And if it were Bug and Dragon, it would still be double weak to Ice. It may gain some more resistances, but with it's poor defensive stats, it won't be taking too many hits. A Special Attack of 116 isn't bad, and 95 speed is above average. If you want to blame anything, blame the Bug type itself. Yanmega is a perfectly good Pokémon ruined by poor typing and a shallow move pool.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  19. Ryan

    Ryan lasagna bad

    pointy face
    (Nidoran♀)
    Level 1
    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2012
    Posts:
    3,325
    PokéPoints:
    ₽3,281.4
    Charizardite X ★★★★
    Exactly. A Special Attack of 116 is great, actually, especially with its abilities. Tinted Lens Choice Specs Yanmega is amazing. Pretty much any Yanmega, if used right, is amazing. If you'd like, Jet, I'll battle you with a Yanmega so you can see that it's perfectly fine how it is.
     
  20. Nate

    pooper scooper
    (Meltan)
    Level 2
    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2012
    Posts:
    2,885
    PokéPoints:
    ₽121.9
    Again, its fine being bug/fly it is really powerful the way it is, on of the reasons mine is so great is because it gets STAB from Flying and Bug.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page