**SPOILERS** Why some megas may / may not be banned

A few things. When taking into account that Swift Swim doubles Speed, you don't double the base speed stat, as that's inaccurate. It reaches much higher then base 140 overall. It's also meant to be a great bulky attacker, as it really doesn't need speed. Rain Support only makes it better, though.

I think Mega Slowbro should take the slot you put Swampert in. This thing is insane. Battle Armor keeps it from getting crit, and crits go though CM boosts. However, with Slowbro's amazing HP and defense stats, you could run bold 252+ def and then CM to raise SpDef and SpAtt. Scald to burn and cut down opponent's attack further and psyshock to hit special walls. Both are also stab coverage and they are great moves. It also gets Slack Off, so it literally is a living tank. Your options are Toxic and that's it, as you can't get lucky with a crit. It does great damage and is an insane set up sweeper or just a tank in general. Knock Off is one of the most common moves this gen, and since it can't knock off an item on Slowbro (mega stone) or get the 1.5x power boost against a base 180 defense Pokémon, it won't do anything. That threatens a lot of mons that rely on Knock Off for coverage. It has high potential for being banned.

For Mega Mence, stuff like Skarmory don't do anything to Mega Mence. A standard set on normal mence even is Fire Blast, and with the special attack being raised in the mega again it only is better. Sub DD Roost Return is almost literally unstoppable and is very broken. Want to know how much it does to a Skarmory at +2? Around 47%. +3 is a 2HKO. Resisted. 145 is also not bad at all, so you definitely should not discount that, as Mence was normally running something along the lines of Scarf, so it already is much stronger then normal especially with the 1.5x and 1.3x boosted Return. It already is going to be banned, the council is just deciding on whether they should suspect test it or just quick ban it instantly.

Also Mega Metagross. Literally haven't had any problems with it. The stats look a lot more menacing then they really are. Once things settle down, it's power might be realized, but as it is now it is no position to be banned. Agility is really a waste of a moveslot as Mega Metagross already has BPunch priority or could run an attack-raising stat move. It is very weak to a lot of common types (Fire, Ground, Dark, Ghost, etc) and is countered/checked by common OU pokes like Ferrothorn or Air Balloon Heatran. I can definitely say that it is no weak mon and it deserves nothing less then a high rank in the OU tier, but as it stands now I can say that it isn't anything banworthy.

Thanks for taking the time to post this though, since a lot of people could learn a thing or two about competitive Pokémon

 

Pfft, assault vest metagross can blow metagross M out of the water. I predict metagross is a solid OU with 'Mence getting banned.

The big question is will they allow genesect again even though it is top tier ubers? Maybe genesect will be back and we will see a rise in scarfers to counter all the fast threats sceptile M, beedrill M mega freaking swampert. What will people counter them with ???

 

Hey guys. Just dropping in. This is my second post, so excuse me if I do something stupid.


So... MegaMence. I love it so much. Ferrothorn's Gyro Ball does ~40% though, and it's pretty easily revenge-killed. Mamoswine, M-Glalie, and even Scarf-Greninja. I think we might see the rise of Bird-spam if this thing doesn't get insta-banned.

Also, Mega Metagross is such a threat. I has Grass Knot (Tough Claws boosted, btw) to 2HKO stuff like Mega Slowbro, and Hammer Arm to hit stuff like Ferrothorn and Air Balloon Heatran. The scary thing is you never know what it's running until you bait it or get nailed by a coverage move. That being said, Metagross has a horrible case of 4MSS, so usually gets walled by most bulky Steels. Stufff like Ferrothorn take nothing from its STABs and aren't 2HKO'd by EQ. This is why most Mega-gross are paired with Magnezone. Scarf Landorus-Therian also checks it pretty well, though Choice-locked EQ is pretty much set-up bait.

Finally, Scarfers are pretty much inferior to Priority spam. Smogon-bird(Talonflame) CB Scizor, and Mamoswine are all really scary threats that beat the crazy-fast Megas. Calcs:
Scizor:
[3D='scizor']
252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Sceptile: 255-300 (90.7 - 106.7%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Beedrill: 325-384 (119.9 - 141.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Mamoswine:
[3D='mamoswine']
252+ Atk Life Orb Mamoswine Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Beedrill: 188-224 (69.3 - 82.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Talonflame
[3D='talonflame']
252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Swampert: 217-256 (63.4 - 74.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO