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The Death Penalty

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by LostSpirit, Feb 24, 2015.

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  1. LostSpirit

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    Recent botched lethal injections have driven some lawmakers into thinking of bringing back more "effective" ways of killing people. A few weeks ago, the Utah House approved a bill that would allow executions by firing squads. Two lawmakers in Oklahoma are now pressing their state to use gas chambers.

    Should we even have the death penalty at all? What are the pros and cons?
     
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    I believe we should keep it. Keeps the prisons a little less full, gets rid of complete scumbags and let's other people eat the food they would otherwise require. As for cons, the drug is kind of expensive, but that's all I can think of. It's just easier and more cost effective to kill them than to put them in a prison. I'm not saying we should do it more often, but there are some people that definitely deserve it. Another part of it is if females deserve it because in some states males can be executed, but not females. I'm going for yes on that as well. A mass shooting is a mass shooting, no matter what gender you are.
     
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    I personally am in some extend against Death penalty, but there are people who deserve it.

    And In all honesty, death penalty should be de-moralized compleatly, to make it effective. Im talking decapitations and torture deaths.

    Noone will fear death if they are just gonna die from poison or elecrcuted to death. Those methods are not painful.
    If you want to make death penalty effective you must also attack on a psychological level. If you are starting to ecxecute humans, do it brutally to "make an example", You will see that humans will fear death again.


    This sounds rude i know, but don't you agree that worlds has gone too soft and by making everything as comfortable and convinient as possible, actually is counter-productive?
     
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    It's such a tricky topic. On one hand I agree with raptor, it would keep the prisons from being full. On the other hand there are the theological view where killing them prevents them from coming back, and the moral view where we have to decide who we kill, what makes one crime punishable by death, and another not? how long until more and more crimes are added to the lethal list? where do we stop? These tricky questions keep me from presenting a good answer in either direction.
     
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    The death penalty should be reserved for cold-blooded murderers only. In other words, if one human being kills with 100% intent one or more others, I do think they should be put on death row. As for methods? I'm for anything that's quick and painless. I know there's a bunch of scumbags out there who may deserve torture and agony, but that's what you're basically doing to them if you let them sit and rot in prison. Disposing of these punks allows a little more space in the prison system, and is a little less of a burden on the taxpayer. Unfortunately, some people through history have been wrongfully convicted, but the number (percentage-wise) is so minute when you compare it to other countries with a death penalty system. Executing murderers may be cruel, but don't you think it's more cruel to have them sit in a cell and stare at stone wall for the rest of their lives? They don't even gain anything from it, nor do taxpayers.
    In closing, our justice system isn't flawless (because there will never be such a thing), but it's still the best in the world. There's some "flaws" I'd love to fix about it, but overall, I'm happy and content with it. At least we're not living in a North Korea.
     
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    Here in Australia we don't have the death penalty at all. I couldn't say whether I support the death penalty, in the cases of really serious murder cases then I would say yes. If you are completely willing to take the life of another, then you should be willing to have the same reciprocated. I'm not going to argue about whether the death penalty for drugs in places like Indonesia is a positive or negative thing, because I honestly don't care what they do over there (I wish people would shut up over the goddamn Bali Nine already).

    I do think that in the most extreme cases it is a reasonable outcome, as they are probably too far mentally gone to be rehabilitated for what they did, but otherwise I don't agree.
     
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    I agree with the death penalty, despite the fact that Britain doesn't use it. Though I know, it would only be used in extreme cases. I still think it's better than clogging up all the prisons with people that have life sentences, they should cut down the population, instead. At least, that's how I think. :/
     
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    I've never personally be a fan of the death penalty. True, it does help clear up space in prisons, but I don't think anybody, not even those who've intended to murder, deserve a death penalty. You see, you can change people, and if you show them that you can be kind to even criminals, that could change some people.

    Of course, I know there are some people that'll never change, but I believe it would be better to try. That way, you can build a society upon teamwork and cooperation, rather than on one full of fear due to the death penalty.

    If they were to make use of it, then I would vote for a quick, painless method. I live in NI, so we don't have the death penalty here, but I still wouldn't change that, even for the worst criminals. In all honesty, I just don't think it's necessary.
     
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    I believe that the death penalty is an unfortunate necessity, and I believe that it should be used more freely than it currently is by society. If someone commits premeditated murder, then they should absolutely be treated in kind. So much money in America goes to helping support inmates that will be imprisoned until the day they die. Our citizens, the victims of their crimes, shouldn't be forced to pay for their continual well-being. I'm of the opinion that if there is absolutely no doubt that someone has intentionally killed another person, then they should suffer the death penalty. No exceptions.
     
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    I cannot add nothing to this comment, I read the Tittle and I was going to say a similar answer to this one. Obviously, I am not that good to write like Madness but yes, it is the perfect description of the situation and why to keep it and also allow it in other countries.
     
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    I'm really torn on the death penalty to be honest. While a part of me does believe in it, an eye for an eye in a way, I also don't believe as humans we have the right to judge each other so harshly to say we have the right to kill someone else. I think that's due to my religious view though, which often clashes with my other opinions at times.

    Plus in a way the death penalty is similar to letting them off easy. There won't be any punishment if they're not alive. Why do you think so many criminals kill themselves after they do something wrong? Because they don't want the punishment that would follow. They take the coward's way out. I think keeping them alive would be a much greater punishment than death, to make them live with what they'd done for the rest of their miserable life.
     
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    In my opinion, anyways, some people don't deserve that chance to change.
     
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    Looking at it from a logical standpoint, it's easier and wastes less time to sentence people to life in prison. If you're up for the death penalty, at least in the United States, you have death or life without parole. There's no chance of you getting out anyway. Either way, that person's life is over.

    It wastes less time going through the appeals process that person has to go through, waiting for five, ten, even fifteen years for someone to kill you with a lethal injection. It's stupid, and they might as well just stick people in prison for their crimes and let them waste away in there instead of using money to make someone actually wait ten or so years to die.

    Cruel and unusual punishment is illegal, just the same as the crime whoever the penalty is on committed.
     
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    Actually, I've come up with a better idea.... Instead of the death penalty, stick them in a prison where EVERYONE will hate them and then just wait a couple of weeks....
     
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    Interestingly enough, that's what happened with the serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer. He was given life without parole and was bludgeoned to death in prison.
     
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    I'd be willing to bet Eddie Ray Routh is gonna get the same thing whenever the prisoners found out he killed a Texas hero.
     
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    Considering it's Texas, I wouldn't put it past them. I personally feel differently, but that's another discussion. Nonetheless, the irony's a bit funny when you think about the fact that either way, death penalty or not, it's basically death. You can't really do much with the rest of your life once you're in prison.
     
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    Oh man. I'm honestly not sure. I believe that yes, some people deserve it, but it really depends on the nature of their crime. Sometimes I feel like being locked up in prison your whole life is a worse punishment than dying. At least when you die...that's it. But when you're in prison, it's like being locked in a cage for your entire life.

    American prisons are definitely too full, but it seems that the death penalty won't help much with that, they really need a better solution.
     
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