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Gen 7 The Scam that is the Nurseries

Discussion in 'Other Pokémon Games' started by HiddenLore, Oct 1, 2018.

  1. HiddenLore

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    In preparing a team of Pokémon for an upcoming platinum play through, I was transported back into the past and used a day care. I realized something astonishing. Breeding Pokémon was so cheap It only cost me 100 to switch a Pokémon out of the day care, since most were only in their long enough to get an egg. This same venture costs 500 if you are forced to give into the sun and moon SCAM! and they don't even do anything. Imagine leaving your child at two day care schools. One takes the opportunity to feed, and teach your child, they charge you for the resources used, and maybe a little it to pay utilities. IF you pick them up quickly, it's cheap, if they stay long, it's more expensive. Now you take them to a new, shiny day care, and they plop them in a tv with popcorn, and charge you $500 for the experience!.

    Anyway, rant done.
     
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  2. Zero HP

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    I went back to Hoenn today to breed a bunch of non-Alolan Vulpix and Sandshrew, and I gotta say: I entirely disagree with you.

    I had a Ditto that had been in that daycare for a long time, and it cost me I think 4000 PP to get it out of there, where in Alola it would have costed me a flat 500. Same with the Vulpixes and Sandshrews I put in there: I want to generate a dozen or so eggs to make sure I get a few with hidden abilities, and suddenly they've grown 10-20 levels and it costs a few thousand to get them out as well. I'd much rather have paid the flat 500 in either of these situations.
     
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  3. HiddenLore

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    I see your point, and that is the perk of the flat fee, but in my time breeding Pokémon, I rarely use low level Pokémon. If they have reached around level 20, and your only breeding a small number of eggs, you won't have to pay much more, or perhaps less, than their flat fee. I suppose though, that if you are embarking on a long term breeding project, such as shiny breeding, or IV breeding, then yes, I'll admit that nurseries might be more advantageous. but 500? I remember reading the first time I played where the nursery worker mentions that it was cheaper, and I was astounded at the price, just to breed a single eevee.
     
  4. BZRich64

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    For me, the main problem is that there is more for me to actually want to spend my money on. Back in the day the Day Care Center would be pretty much the only thing besides Pokeballs that I ever spent money on, which combined with the fact that only ever bred to fill up my attempt at a living 'dex, meant that I could spend pretty much as much as I wanted and it would hardly put a dent in my in-game finances. Now that I've started to get into breading more and I also sink a lot of money into TMs and clothes, it would probably be far more expensive for me use the old payment system.

    That being said, I found it hilarious when I first got to the Nursery and the lady their said that it was cheaper than the Day Care. She was like she was flat out lying to my face.

    One thing that I'm hoping for the Gen VIII games is that we actually get our own Day Care/Nursery facility, thus negating the need to pay for it at all.
     
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  5. Morgaine

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    I have to disagree with the anursery,s being a scam. I am an IV and shiny breeder and thus I use a lot of low level Pokémon to get to the IV's I need. In the past it happened that I had no choice but to use a Pokémon with only egg moves that I needed to put into the daycare and the daycare wiped out all the egg moves. That doesn't happen with the nursery,na d with the nursery I just pay a flat fee.
     
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  6. HiddenLore

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    I see your point, and I have no problem with the nursery not teaching new moves, I definitely see the value of that, I guess my biggest issue is that it is really only meant for people who IV or Shiny Breed. I do that occasionally, but I like to prepare teams for new games, or fill out my living Pokédex. These require frequent, and therefore more expensive, sessions. I see now though that I may have been hasty in my anger. So many good points I had forgotten to consider.
     
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    Gen 7 introduced the first nurseries where the cost didn't increase over time unlike in previous games because the level of the mons you put in did not increase. In older games they however charged you more the more your mon leveled and it usually messed up your mon's moveset too which I hated. How is that not a scam? The new setup means it doesn't mess with your breeding, you don't have to go bankrupt breeding just one mon and you can reuse the parents because they keep their moves so you don't have to restock your breeding supply.
     
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  9. HiddenLore

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    All of that is true, but the Nursery Aide specifically says that they are cheaper. And I will admit, that in many (common) circumstances this is true. Often though I just want a single egg, and paying 500 per Pokémon I switch, versus 100 (since often they haven't been in there long enough) does bankrupt me. Sun is the only game where I have actually HAD to go and grind the Pokémon league in order to afford to breed Pokémon.
    That's the scam
     
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    I'd have payed extra money for my Pokémon to NOT level up in the old daycare. Unless the Pokémon you were breeding was unable to learn new moves or it was already at lv100, it was a pain to have to be checking if its moveset was going to be ruined forever.

    That being said, talking about prices: pokes are basically yen, so the new nursery earns about 3$ for each Pokémon you retire from there. Pretty reasonable, if you ask me :annoyed:
     
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    In the long run I have saved more money in-game with the nurseries than with the daycares in the other gens, so to me they are cheaper.
     
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    This, I've not had issues with money at all since they did this unlike in previous games which I'm thankful for. Usually I had to spam the E4 now and them to get money before I could continue breeding at times and even just so I could get the parents out of the daycare.
     

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