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Spoilers Third Versions vs. DLC Expansions

Discussion in 'Switch Pokémon Games' started by BZRich64, Apr 8, 2019.

  1. BZRich64

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    Its been a tradition ever since the release of Pokémon Blue in Japan for GameFreak to release a "third version" of each generation of Pokémon games that add content onto what was available in the first two games among other miscellaneous changes. Sometimes they mess around with that formula, such as Gen V having sequels in the form of Black 2 and White 2, or Gen VII having both Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon as third versions. To date, the Generation VI games, X and Y, have been the only games (not counting remakes) to not get a third version.

    On the other hand, a rising trend in the video game industry in resent years is the DLC expansion: which add new content onto preexisting games (in exchange for paying more money, of course). These additions tend to be similar in nature to what Pokémon's third versions add.

    This raises an interesting question: should GameFreak start adding onto the Pokémon games with DLC expansions, instead of releasing third versions?
     
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    I actually dislike both. Granted DLC is the 'lesser of two demons', but my take is this: if you have an idea, then do everything you have to in order to get it in the original game, or else make the DLC free. I don't want to have to pay extra just for content you "ran out of time" getting out; take your time, get the bugs out, and then release the COMPLETE game.

    Third versions are basically pre-DLC variations that are being sold at full-price, which is worse than even DLC. Yes, they often contain the best content (let's face it, Yellow/Crystal/Emerald/Platinum were the best versions of their respective generations), but the content is basically just minor updates (with Emerald being the most heavily-modified of the four).
     
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    I'm not going to lie, I would probably be more likely to buy a third version of the game, than DLC content. So if the stuff were free then yes. Otherwise I'd rather have an extra "save file" which is another problem people have, but it's never bothered me that much. I feel though that the DLC route wouldn't be as interesting as the third version. The minor changes they make to story line are what make them better. If Platinum was the only version that was available, it wouldn't stand out in fourth gen. I feel that its climax as compared to D&P is what makes it actually considered better.
     
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    I don't think they'll do DLC for the Pokémon games tbh, I'd also prefer neither DLC or third version really, I'd much rather get sequels again like with BW2 so we could get a full brand new story and areas and maybe even an expanded dex. I'd overall just prefer a new game over just minor added stuff, but if I have to pick the lesser evil of the two I'd say a third version.
     
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    I miss the third versions. Maybe we could possibly see a third version for the upcoming switch games? If so I hope it's like Platinum. Fixed so many things that were wrong in Diamond and Pearl and added new features and even showed off what the DS could handle with the Distortion World.
     
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    I'd prefer it if they did away with both and made complete, fleshed-out experiences the first go around, instead of cutting content for the sake of sales.

    Neither option is particularly great. DLC is very rarely done right, and it could range from "just cosmetic" costumes to additional Pokémon to full story expansions...or, more likely, a mixture of both. With the disgustingly exploitative paywall for Mew in Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee, I don't want DLC anywhere NEAR Pokémon, because it will be just as bad, if not worse, than that. The "vote with your wallet" option is pretty much null and void in a series that generates sales numbers like this. Then there is the possibility that DLC could come in the form of Amiibo, which invites stock shortages and price hikes, a new kind of exclusivity that cuts the game up even further.

    As for third versions...whilst they generally DO improve upon the originals - Emerald made Gen 3 enjoyable, and in my opinion is better than the 3DS remakes - they're still selling the game to you a second time with minor changes that barely affect the experience for the most part, plus some postgame content they could have easily added the first time around. With the cost of Switch titles being what it is, it isn't exactly consumer-friendly, if ever it was.

    It'd be wonderful if Game Freak could do with Pokémon what was done with Hyrule Warriors - and yes, I know that game was released three times across multiple platforms, but the DLC for that game on the Wii U and 3DS is the best I have ever seen. Free content updates alongside meaningful and lengthy expansions that added dozens of hours to the gameplay. Why not give us an AFFORDABLE story-based postgame season pass of 3 or 4 instalments and continue with the distribution of event Pokémon - on a rotating schedule, so that it's not "miss it and tough shit" - like they did before they decided to distribute through stores for some stupid reason. Most importantly, do NOT gate anything off behind Amiibo, separate physical items that either cost a fortune or are in limited stock, and do not make any content essential for the full experience.

    It'll never happen, because Nintendo are greedy and exploitative, which is why I don't want Pokémon to ever enter DLC territory, but if it HAD to, that'd be what I want to see. A model that respects the consumer and offers value.
     
  7. BZRich64

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    It just occurred to me that I never stated my own stance on this debate. I am very much on the pro-DLC side. I'd much rather pay ~$20 for dlc that adds a post-game storyline ala Episode Delta and Episode RR, with new Legendary forms and whatever else they decide to add, than I would pay ~$60 to replay the same game I just played a year ago but with some moderate changes here and there. Plus a pack that adds in a Battle Frontier or equivalent, and maybe a smaller pack or two that add in new areas where you can access older Pokémon, smaller storylines like the Celebi event from HG/SS, and maybe through in some clothes and accessories in there as well (though not as separate dlc).

    Just make sure to patch in new Pokémon/forms/whatever to the base game, so that we don't have the issue we have now where you can't use new Pokémon when interacting with the older versions, and so that people who don't want the dlc can still get those Pokémon through trade.
     

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