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Thoughts and Speculation regarding new Mega Evos.

Discussion in 'Festival Plaza' started by A Wild Morgan Freeman, Nov 16, 2014.

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  1. A Wild Morgan Freeman

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    Best Mega?

    If I were to determine this purely off of base stats, I'd have to say Mega Salamence, hands down. But... Let's take a look at these stats, shall we?

    Beedrill-M Stats: 65/150/40/15/80/145 (0/+60/0/-30/0/+70) [Adaptability]
    Pidgeot-M Stats: 83/80/80/135/80/121 (0/0/+5/+65/+10/+20) [No Guard]
    Slowbro-M Stats: 95/75/180/130/80/30 (0/0/+70/+30/0/0) [Shell Armor]
    Steelix-M Stats: 75/125/230/55/95/30 (0/+40/+30/0/+30/0) [Sand Force]
    Sceptile-M Stats: 70/110/75/145/85/145 (0/+25/+10/+40/0/+25) [Lightningrod]
    Swampert-M Stats: 100/150/110/95/110/70 (0/+40/+20/+10/+20/+10) [Swift Swim]
    Sableye-M Stats: 50/85/125/85/115/20 (0/+10/+50/+20/+50/-30) [Magic Bounce]
    Sharpedo-M Stats: 70/140/70/110/65/105 (0/+20/+30/+15/+25/+10) [Strong Jaw]
    Camerupt-M Stats: 70/120/100/145/105/20 (0/+20/+30/+40/+30/-20) [Sheer Force]
    Altaria-M Stats: 75/110/110/110/105/80 (0/+40/+20/+40/0/0) [Pixilate]
    Glalie-M Stats: 80/120/80/120/80/100 (0/+40/0/+40/0/+20) [Refrigerate]
    Salamence-M Stats: 95/145/130/120/90/120 (0/+10/+50/+10/+10/+20) [Aerilate]
    Metagross-M Stats: 80/145/150/105/110/110 (0/+10/+20/+10/+20/+40) [Tough Claws]
    Lopunny-M Stats: 65/136/94/54/96/135 (0/+60/+10/0/0/+30) [Scrappy]
    Gallade-M Stats: 68/165/95/65/115/110 (0/+40/+30/0/0/+30) [Inner Focus]
    Audino-M Stats: 103/60/126/80/126/50 (0/0/+40/+20/+40/0) [Healer]


    So now that we have that out of the way, let's separate them into groups, dependant on what they are meant to be (I.E Walls, Sweepers, Etc.)

    Walls:

    Steelix-M
    Slowbro-M
    Metagross-M (Debateable)
    Audino-M
    Saybleye-M

    Let's break this down, first and foremost.

    Steelix-M I feel has a somewhat awquard stat distribution. A lot of his potential is dumped straight into Defense, and that in of itself is not a very good thing. Look at Aggron-M, that was wasted potential. At this point, Aggron-M's only purpose is to set up Stealth Rock and Spikes and Roar the hell out of the opponent. Steelix-M, I feel, is going to go down that same road.

    Slowbro-M. This thing looks like a complete monster to just sit there and never die. While losing one of the best abilities in the game, Regenerator, it has a whopping 180/80/95 in defensive slots, all things considered. Slowbro-M also gains Shel Armor, witch is not all that bad if you ask me. Set up those Calm Minds, Amnesias, and nothing you can throw at it will break through by luck alone. All and all, while not improving on it a whole lot, it was still a great choice for a wall before this, and will continue to be an amazing wall.

    I'm going to leave out Metagross here, as I'd like to talk about that in another section.

    Audino-M to me is kinda pointless. I saw it, first thought that ran through my mind is, 'How much EXP am I going to get from beating this thing?'

    Crude jokes aside, Audino-M could be considered an offensive Pokémon, but I don't consider it offensive at all. In fact, it would probably be better to use this as a wall, or better yet, not use it at all. I don't think Audino-M is all that good, but... Let's see if the games prove me wrong.

    Sweepers/Offensive.

    Sceptile-M
    Swampert-M
    Sharpedo-M
    Camperupt-M
    Glalie-M
    Lopuny-M
    Gallade-M

    Let's begin.

    Sceptile-M seems rather good to me, as a mixed attacker. Pop a Leaf Storm on him... You know, the usual. Though, I can't seem to think of how he has Lightingrod as an ability... Let's ignore that. While also gaining a great type combination, he is a formidable mega, and is one to be feared and considered on a team.

    Swampert-M, like Sceptile-M, seems rather good to me. Nice'n STAB Hammer Arm, Waterfall, things of the like. All and all, not an overly amazing mega, but not terrible, by all means.

    Sharpedo-M doesn't seem all that bad, either. His ability is rather pointless though, because... Well, he only gets Crunch and Ice Fang. Moving on, he has decent Attack and speed. Again, I'm not really expecting much from this, but hey, the games can prove me wrong.

    Camperupt-M I think has potential. With his Sheer Force ability, a whole bunch of his moves are boosted, along with a nice 120/145. Although not having the greatest defensive typing or speed, I still think it can be formed into something formidable easily.

    Glalie-M seems quite good to me, honestly. A nice 120/120/100 in attacking stats along with Refrigerate... Yeah, just think Explosion and you will understand me completely.

    Lopuny-M in my opinion is the least worried about mega (Right Above Audino) but reall,y this thing can cause some serious damage to your team. A whopping 135/135 in Speed and Attack, combined with a movepool the size of Texas, this is something you can't mess around with. Saying this is bad is the understatement of the century.

    Mixed.

    Altaria-M.

    This thing is going to be a nice choice. With reasonable bulk and about the best deffensive typing, this thing can take hits. Not to mention dish them out, with a reasonable and balanced stat distribution, this thing is going to be a serious threat in the near future. In the right hands, It can be a monster.

    Now, onto th ones I did not mention. The ones, in my opinion, are the best.

    Metagross-M
    Salamence-M
    Beedrill-M

    Now, let's start with Metagross-M. I see in this thing a lot of potential. While I think his Tough Claws ability is kind of pointless, I'll roll with it for now. With great defensive typing, Metagross-M is a threat from all sides, Being able to take hits, dish them out, then rinse and repeat. Metagross in and of itself is a threat, but now... Now... This thing is a monster.

    Now, alright, onto these two...

    Salamence-M. I looked at his stats and died. I have no words, let me formulate some.

    Alright, here we are. 95/130/90. Someone get me the kid who thought it was a good idea to make Salamence-M's defence 130. Like, holy crap. Wether you want it or not, this thing is getting a Dragon Dance up. Speaking of boosted stats...

    145/120/120.

    Holy crap, what the hell just happened.

    Your telling me, this thing, this DRAGON TYPE has stats comparable to Deyoxis-Attack? Are you kidding me? You gave him Arialate too. Pop Dragon Dance, Dragon Claw, Double Edge, and you got yourself a monster that can't be stopped. I'll bet money this thing is going straight to Ubers.

    Beedrill-M. Now, we got Beedrill here. Little ol' irrelevant beedrill... Bam, we now have a god damn mega who is going to ruin your life. This thing is on steriods, Literaly. 150/145 in speed and Attack? Swords Dance? Oh, great, it has adaptability too. Like. Why? Poison Jab, X-Scissor... Might want to pop on Drill Run just to be an ass to Steel types...

    So yeah, these are my thoughts and speculations on the current Mega Evos.
     
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  2. guimartgon

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    Agreed with almost everything. I can see you didn't analyze the MegaTwins.
    M-Slowbro is way better than how you put it, in fact I don't see it as a wall but as crocune 2.0, is a crocune with better stats that can't get critted .-. get rid of choice band holders with super effective Stabs and this thing is a win button.
    M-Salamence is honestly stupid, bulky sub DD is so broken.
    and about Beedrill... IT'S NOT THAT GOOD EVERYONE, stop praising it. I mean yeah, it hurts like hell but it needs SOOO much support to be decent! An SD Set is just going to set up an SD and then eat a priority attack to the face and die, plus SD requires you to only run double stab, you can't run SD + 3 attacks, M-Beedril NEEDS Protect the turn it Mega Evolves cause the regular form gets outsped by half of the metagame and the turn you mega evolve your speed doesn't change.
    So SD is out of the way unless you only want to run 1 STAB and waste it's ability(and not deal nearly as much damage so what's the point) cause SD + 2 STABS + protect gets walled by Lando-T and every steel type not called Ferrothorn(who still can check it I do believe). It's other possible set is a hit and run Beedrill with U-turn, who still gets wrecked by priority users(AKA almost everything on every team this gen) with Protect + U-Turn + Poison Jab + Drill Run/Knock Off. You still get checked by Scarf users(countered by Lando-T), destroyed by priority and walled by a few steel types, oh and Hippowdon I believe, and Gliscor... And here's why it needs so much support, since this thing gets checked and countered without too much trouble you are probably gonna spam U-Turn, everytime you go back in you're gonna be taking 25% health just from Stealth Rocks, not counting Spikes Sand or anything like that, so literally anything with a priority attack even uninvested can pick you off... That's just what I think about Beedrill. Oh and Mega Mence being in the meta increases Ice Shard users usage, which also wreck the bee.
     
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    Mega Sceptile would be great for a Rain Team in Doubles. Lightning Rod would protect your ally from any Electric attacks, and it has a double-resistance to Water. This means that you can spam Surf without him taking too much damage.
     
  4. Skullbash

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    Mega Slowbro spams calm mind 3 times and then uses rest XD Then cleans the house.
     
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  5. Xarn

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    If you are searching for the best Mega, it is impossible, all depends in your team. The worst? I can see that when I say "mega" and "Audino" the first word that come to your mind is "worst". Now talking about stats yeah...M-Salamance is a OMG powerful thing. Talking seriously I can say that M-Sceptile is not very viable, x4 ice weak? The answer is simple, there are too many mamoswines, weaviles and even Donphan with Ice Shard, I can make the esception with Salamence (good bulky) but Sceptile low defenses don't make him a good risk, the results will be lesser than spected.
     
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    In my opinion, the best Mega is Mega Metagross
     
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    I have been really enjoying Mega Gallade. It is a bulkier, faster, slightly less strong Mega Medicham, with a fantastic movepool. If you support him correctly he can shred unprepared teams. Also, smogon just banned salamencite.
     
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