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Spoilers Transfering Pokémon

Discussion in 'Switch Pokémon Games' started by BZRich64, Jun 11, 2019.

  1. BZRich64

    BZRich64 Mustached Moderator

    Golden Lizard
    Level 23
    Jun 12, 2017
    A big bombshell has just been dropped regarding Pokémon Sword & Shield and Pokémon Home: You can't transfer any Pokémon to Sword or Shield if they aren't in the Galar Pokédex. This is huge news, as until now GameFreak has always done a good job of letting us carry over all of our Pokémon whenever new games come out (with the exception of Gen III, due to hardware limitations that were outside of their control). We don't know exactly how many Pokémon you won't be able to move to Sword & Shield yet, but this is still huge news. Note that you can apparently still keep them in Pokémon Home, meaning that if future games add specific Pokémon back then you should hopefully be able to transfer them over.

    Anyway, what are your thoughts on this news? Do you hate it? Are you indifferent? Are there any specific Pokémon that you're worried won't be available in the new games?
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  2. Wizard

    Wizard HOO BOY

    (Decidueye (Cupid))
    Level 39
    Jan 18, 2016
    I have been so excited for Sword and Shield, but this really just put a stopper on a lot of my excitement. When I replay Pokémon games, I love to send in other Pokémon to make the best teams possible. However, if some of my favorite Pokémon end up as locked out, then this will no longer be possible. I know that there are a lot of Pokémon out there, but this is just incredibly disappointing. Another fact to face here is that Gamefreak has always had a relatively small development team despite the insane amounts of sales they make, so it wouldn't have been impossible to invite more people to work on the team.

    Furthermore, I like having the National Dex within my games. While it might be cool and all for Pokémon Home to have it, I still find it disappointing that I can't have it in my games. Not a huge deal, but still an additional bummer.

    Here's hoping that future Gen. 8 games support all Pokémon, including those outside of the Galar region.
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  3. Hraesvelgr

    Level 13
    Aug 2, 2014
    Trainer Card - Cave ThemeDragon Fang ★★★★Philosopher's CowlWater Stone ★★★Great Ball ★★
    Is a disappointment, just means the pokémon I've worked hard on to get and was looking forward to eventually messing around with in SnS once I'd hit the end of the game will just sit there because I can't use some of them. Unless they add more pokémon you can transfer later down the line is honestly just a bummer.
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  4. Laserdragon14

    Laserdragon14 Dragon Maverick

    Level 18
    Jan 16, 2018
    Flame Orb ★★★★★Luxury Ball ★★★Dragon Fang ★★★★Poké Ball ★Trainer Card - Cave Theme
    major bummer since my first mass transfer was from ORAS to USUM, but oh well, I guess I have to live with it even though it is really disappointing.
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  5. ValorVolcarona

    ValorVolcarona Pokémon Professor

    (Alolan Geodude)
    Level 3
    Jun 4, 2018
    Comet Shard ★★★★Poké Doll ★★Trainer Card - Cave Theme
    That’s disappointing to hear. I hope over time Pokémon Home or SwSh gets some kind of patch that allows you to transfer Pokémon that aren’t in the Galar dex, but I don’t see a high likelihood of that.
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  6. SnowboundBecca

    SnowboundBecca Scarf Enthusiast

    Jet Stone
    Level 19
    Feb 25, 2017
    Marshadium Z ★★★★★Beast Ball ★★★★Black Glasses ★★★★Luxury Ball ★★★Legendary Triforce ★★
    Like everyone else here, this is indeed disappointing and a little sad to hear. But from a developer's point of view, I understand that with the hundreds of Pokémon that we now know of, inputting all of their codes and models into the Switch (which is still relatively new tech compared to the 3DS) would take a lot of time, perhaps another year at most. In the meantime, there may be hope that Sword & Shield, if it gets big enough sales and reviews, will receive future patches that allow for more Pokémon to be transferred over. But that's just hopeful speculation on my end.

    I'm still getting the double pack regardless of this flaw, and I plan to enjoy as much as it can offer.
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  7. Ethereal

    Ethereal The Coolest

    Level 36
    Feb 23, 2018
    Thunder Stone ★★★Poké Doll ★★
    I've been a bit iffy on these games since there reveal. The graphics looked mediocre, big chance we'd get more Kanto pandering -after the abominations that were LGPE-, etc.

    This.... This is the deal breaker for me. I'm not longer getting these games. I'd rather spend my money elsewhere.

    Like, this has gotta be one of the stupidest decisions made by GF and because of this all my shinies and pokebros are stuck in gen 7 for who knows how long, maybe even forever. One of the first things I do after completing the main storyline is transfer my most treasured Pokémon over to the newest game and the fact I and others cannot do this anymore is really, really disappointing.
    Not to mention this means people will be forced to use only Pokémon from the Galar Dex in competitive. It'll also suck for those who like to complete the national Dex in all their games. I guess game freak don't care about their fans anymore (although let's be real, we've known this for a while now.)
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  8. Wolf Expert

    Wolf Expert Master of Breaking Things

    Level 22
    Jun 27, 2017
    Moon Ball ★★★★Love Ball ★★★★★Premier Ball ★Friend Ball ★★★★Luxury Ball ★★★
    This might be a deal breaker for me. Like we all know that they're probably going to come out with a revamped version of the game in a few more years and I'm willing to bet that it'll allow you to use every Pokémon. It would have been better if they had just waited a couple more years to develop the game more. They made it sound in the PR post that it was because of a space limitation on the switch, which I have a hard time believing. Honestly the more I hear about this, the more disappointed I am.

    I think I might actually skip this one and just wait for the "sequel" or whatever it will be. It's almost physically painful to say because I love the series so much. I just don't see the point though. Maybe the story will be good? Maybe I'll just wait a while and see what the reviews are like once people have had time to finish the game.

    Also Home is a one-way transfer. So if you transfer Pokémon to Home, then all you can do is leave them there or transfer them into S&S. which means if you're able to transfer Pokémon to Home that aren't in the Galar dex, they'll be STUCK THERE FOREVER. Why would anyone want to do that? Maybe they'll make it possible to transfer them in future games, but until then what's even the point? It's not like there's a guarantee that you'll be able to take them out in the future, so no one in their right mind would store their Pokémon in Home on the vague off chance of possibly being able to use them again YEARS from now.

    I might just stick to fan games for now. It seems like at the moment smaller fan developers are actually doing a better job with the series than Nintendo is. That is, when not being shut down by Nintendo for making games that don't actually generate any revenue and essentially act like free advertising for them. That got a bit ranty, but come on.
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  9. Uber-Dan

    Uber-Dan PKMN Breeder

    Legendary Egg
    (Moltres Egg)
    Level 12
    Jan 2, 2013
    Great Ball ★★Poké Ball ★
    According to a friend of mine on DA, this was due to a policy change by the higher ups at Nintendo. This means Gen 7 is the last Pokémon games to have all the Pokémon, the Pokémon we get in day 1 will be all there is, no patches, no updates, etc.

    Best case scenario is the backlash get's high enough to get Nintendo to reverse the change but I wouldn't hold my breath on that.
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  10. ShinigamiMiroku

    Diancie Egg
    (Diancie Egg)
    Level 28
    Aug 8, 2017
    Red Orb ★★★★★
    This has not killed my excitement for Sword/Shield. Maybe it's because I don't have a LivingDex to speak of, but even when I had multiple regions I have never transferred Pokémon from one region to the next in order to continue using them, but rather to simply fill out the NationalDex of that generation; I much prefer going through the games and using what is there in order to experience the game at its fullest.

    Personally, I think everyone is freaking out far too much over this, and to be frank it's saddening to see. I won't use worn-out words like 'entitlement' and the like, but I think the Pokémon community as a whole (actually, there are many communities that need to do this) needs to rethink their ideas of what 'ought to be', and instead try to understand the perspective - the vision - of the developers themselves. They don't go into these projects all willy-nilly (trust me, there are pages and pages of documents that have to be submitted for them to even just get off the ground); every decision is made for a very specific purpose. Do we agree with all of these decisions? Not always - Gen1 had a broken system that only ever worked because Iwata fixed the code, Gen2 had a very barren Kanto region (and set up unrealistic expectations for future generations), Gen3 didn't have transfer capabilities, Gen4 was slow and confusing, Gen5 was an attempt at a reboot, Gen6 had the worst villain team to ever exist, and Gen7's Ultra versions changed many things about the plot that ruined it. However, all of them had reasons for happening - whether they were due to hardware limitations or lore purposes doesn't matter, only the fact that they were purposeful decisions.
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  11. Gwoomy

    Gwoomy french goo

    Lord Helix
    (Helix Fossil)
    Level 47
    Oct 2, 2017
    Dragon Scale ★★★Marshadium Z ★★★★★Helix Fossil ★★★Legendary Triforce ★★Animal Crossing Leaf ★
    I can see how a lot of people can be upset about this, but I feel like it doesn't affect me personally. I never transfer anything and am seemingly too lazy to even think about completing a pokédex… So, I don't mind.
    And it somehow seems like my main interest in Pokémon is shifting from the games to fanmade creative content, which lessens the impact even more considering artistic freedom allows pretty much anything…
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  12. Shayminlover123

    Shayminlover123 Dragon Tamer

    Level 16
    Dec 30, 2012
    I know a lot of people are upset about this, and I can understand where they're coming from. However, this isn't so much of a deal breaker to me? It really hurts that you won't be able to use the Pokémon you want in Sword and Shield, but I don't think this is the MAIN attraction of playing Pokémon games.

    I'll still be buying the games myself. I love these games even if there is a limited amount of Pokémon. (I played Pokémon Colo and that game is REALLY limited)

    So hopefully GF will do something in the future to make everyone happy.
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