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Vaccines

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by LostSpirit, Mar 3, 2015.

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  1. LostSpirit

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    Vaccines are one of the only effective solutions at stopping epidemics. That is... if most of the population has been vaccinated. For reasons of public health, should everyone be vaccinated, or does this infringe on their choices?

    If you're not too familiar with this topic, lots of people are given the MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) vaccine as kids before we enter school (which is kind of a breeding ground for germs and disease) and so develop an immunity to these diseases, keeping them safe and making it harder to spread the disease to those people who aren't vaccinated. There are also sexually transmitted diseases, such as HPV (human papilloma virus) which cause a number of different cancers, that have vaccines, although this and other vaccines are not as widespread as the MMR vaccine. Typically, you get one or a few doses of the vaccine and only a few people show side effects, most of which are minor. Vaccines are widely known to be the reason we no longer worry about polio of smallpox.

    However, many people still refuse to getting vaccines, saying that children's immune systems can deal with most infections naturally, and that injecting questionable vaccine ingredients into a child may cause side effects, including seizures, paralysis, and death. They contend that numerous studies prove that vaccines may trigger problems like autism, ADHD, and diabetes.

    Anyhow, what are your thoughts on vaccines? Should everyone be vaccinated if they have the opportunity to? Why or why not?
    Discuss!
     
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  2. Sachi-Shimazu

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    I honestly think that everyone should get injections. It is important to stop outbreaks of terrible epidemics and if someone has an allergic reaction to it, while sad, it has fewer repercussions on health than if no one got eliminated.
     
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    I'm of the mind that our immune systems are strong enough on their own, but my opinion in this is extremely biased. I can't get most vaccines because I have extremely negative reactions to the chemicals that are a basic part of the vaccine. I often get more sick from the vaccine itself than I would have if I had gotten the disease it was supposed to prevent. My immune system is ridiculously strong most of the time, so vaccines are only a hindrance to me. I am wary of recommending them to others, mainly due to the chemical cocktail that goes into the making of vaccines. It worries me that people are so quick to pump chemicals into their bodies to solve a problem that could just as easily be prevented through a healthy diet and regular exercise.
     
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    I do not understand. Your kids health or some thought that "Vaccines cause Autism"...
    Vaccines are preventing so many deaths daily, eradicated numerous infections and helped mankind... AND THEN SOMEONE COMES AND DENIES IT!?
    I think everyone should be vaccinated. I dont care about ones ideals, values, religion nor thoughts.. I care about our races and next generations survival and health.
     
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  5. Achromatic

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    Parents...please vaccinate your children. It is wrong to deny your children of vaccinations, as they could get seriously ill. The fact that some parents won't vaccinate their children is beyond me, and honestly I am pleased that parents have gone to jail over this, as it is wrong.

    It's not gonna cause autism. Vaccinate them before it's too late.
     
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    I do think that certain vaccines are necessary, but they shouldn't be mandatory. Forcing something onto someone is just a blatant infringement on our human rights. People should rather be educating on which vaccines are necessary and those that aren't. Flu shots, for example.. not so necessary. Hepatitis? Yes. Chicken Pox? Eh, no. Measles? Yes.

    Although vaccines have improved the lives of others, it has in some cases worsened the problem for the person by amplifying their targeted illness/disease they had to begin with, or in other cases, people have had allergic reactions from the overabundance of chemicals so bad that they ultimately died as a result. I've had the necessary vaccinations growing up, but there's no way in hell I'd ever get a flu shot. I mean, if you enjoy having mercury injected into your veins, be my guest.
     
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    I hate anti vax people. I hate that people would rather risk their child getting a deadly disease and SPREADING IT TO OTHERS then the chance they could get autism. Even though vaccines don't cause autism, this is how much the world hates autistic people.
    As an autistic person, I hate anti vax people.
     
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    Ooh, we actually talked about this in one of my psychology classes the other day! Vaccinations do not cause Autism. A study was done on this years ago, claiming that the measles vaccine did cause Autism. Years later, it was found out that the doctor who did the study gave false information within his studies. Only 1 of the 12 children he studied actually had Autism, he just claimed the rest did. Not only that, but each child's parents were apart of an anti-measles shot organization. That screams in accuracy. Luckily Dr. Wakefield was stripped of his medical license :) More info here

    But anyways, all children should be vaccinated. The pros out weigh the cons most definitely.
     
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  9. Cobalt

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    There's quite a bit of swearing in this post, mostly because anti-vacc people are people who frustrate me to no end, and make me really, really angry.

    I'm going to say it.

    If you don't vaccinate your kids or yourself, you're a fucking idiot.

    There is a reason they give out these vaccines. It's because they fucking work. You don't want your kid suffering, especially at a young age? Get them vaccinated. It's that fucking simple. Literally, by not vaccinating your child, you are doing nothing but giving the virus the opportunity to grow and mutate into a strain that's more difficult to stop, or even impossible. You are literally endangering other people's lives for no reason.

    If you're religious? God put these on the fucking planet for a reason. God's not gonna heal you directly, God'll give you the opportunity. Shut up and get your kid vaccinated.

    If you're afraid of an autistic or gay child? First off, you're more stupid than I thought if you think autism/homosexuality are even remotely related to vaccines. Neither are a choice, and you're born with both. Secondly, if you're not prepared to raise an autistic/gay child, don't fucking have a child.

    Vaccines keep everyone safe. They keep everyone healthy. They keep the world from getting another disease we can't control. Where the fuck is the downside? Get vaccinated.
     
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    I always get vaccinated each year, as do a lot of citizens here, so I believe that yes everyone should get vaccinated. Especially children, they could get seriously sick if they don't get the proper vaccines, this goes for adults as well.

    Vaccines are there to help you and not get sick as easily with the flu and such, they don't make someone autistic you are either born with it or not.
     
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    I believe that once a person turns 16 they are allowed to turn away vaccines if they so strongly not wish to have a needle stab them and inject substances into their blood stream *shivers* I have always had a fear of needles ever since this horrible doctor just pulled my pants down and jammed a needle in my thigh because she was getting impatient with my constant crying and screaming when i was little. My mom confirmed that I now traumatized by needles. Thanks doctor -_-
     
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    @[member="XxGinger-the-starxX"] So you'd be willing to put other people at risk because you're scared of a needle?
     
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    I think is very important to get vaccinated, it protects you from diseases. There's no reason to not get vaccinated unless you're allergic to the vaccine or really don't have the money for it as vaccines in some places can be costly. If there's a program going around where you live that gives free shots you should line up for it.

    Sadly here flu shots are costly and unless you're 65+ the shot is not free. Is sad that they costs as much as they do since it makes people not wanna get vaccinated. It may be protection against something that could potentially kill you but some people just don't have the money for it.

    The type of mercury in the vaccine have never been proven to be harmful so far from what I've found out, is ethyl mercury that's in the shots not methyl mercury which is harmful.
     
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    My parents chose not to vaccinate me,
    I am yet to do my own research into the matter.
    But for the time being i'm very annoyed.
    People get really upset because people choose not to vaccinate their children,like,please, there could be a legit reason why they don't, or, they might just not want to. It's their choice, please don't get angry at them.
    I have never been vaccinated.
    ever.
    and I've never gotten sick other than the common cold, I've never had measles, who were the people I have seen in my group of friends who have had chicken pocks etc? the vaccinated ones.
    there's more to this matter then you might realize
    some people might know more than you
    don't get pissed about it if they don't choose the same option as you

    It's just
    not fair
     
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    I have a very strong opinion about this oh my god

    You know the 4 measles outbreaks in California? 4 were in my hometown, 2 were in my school.

    And when some people have a stronger immune system than others, some don't. That shit spreads. I just think it's probably one of the most idiotic things you can do. You're helping your child and those around them. If you don't get sick easily, get one anyways. I'm fucking terrified of needles. It's one of my top phobias. When I was a newborn, my nurse had no clue what she was doing and my veins ended up being so swollen I had to go to the ER. "Vaccines don't work".

    Okay, except they fucking do. It has been scientifically proven. Back in the early days of America, the first form of the vaccine was made by injecting the disease into human flesh, and you know what? That is how smallpox died. And that is how measles almost died. Except, some people don't vaccinate their kids, and that 4 spread to 10.

    If you think vaccines can give your child autism or homosexuality, I'm sorry to say it, but I have 0 respect for you. Open your eyes. It doesn't happen.

    i have so much more to add but i think i've stated my opinion quite well.
     
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